The Brexit Thread

orfc wrote: Griff, would this be the same economists that didn't predict the crash 10 years ago?

They're like weathermen, they can predict trends ok, but the extreme events that cause the damage always take them by surprise

Fair point mate, and they’re not all on the same page, but financial modelling has got much better since then (still not perfect though) so they’re more likely to get it right this time.

Laffy, you're trying to give the impression the pound has been weak against all other currencies. At times it has been weak but over the last year the story has been the strength of the US Dollar which has gained about 5% against sterling. The pound has strengthened or at least held its own against nearly every other world currency. For UK car component companies it is the weakness of the Polish zloty and Czech Koruna which is a problem.

I agree though with your comments on travel businesses. I've heard Ryanair advance bookings are well down on expectations. It's just as well as they can't take delivery of all those new Boeing 737 Max 8s.

Just my view but you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.The question of MP pay has been the subject of much criticism but frankly they are paid less than a two year qualified accountant-that cannot be right and it’s now showing.

On Ryanair,I think all that stuff last year about schedules etc was a cunning plan to cut flights and routes.Ski Val went down yesterday-45 year old ski company which you would think would be immune.

Don’t underestimate the value of being able to devalue your currency-we used to own a company called CV Travel in Greece.We used to book the beds from owners in Feb and pay for them in October-Greece used to devalue every summer to stay competitive and it made us a million every year in currency shift-until they joined the Euro!!Next thing Greece is in trouble because they can’t devalue and we lost a cool million each year from the bottom line.

Agree on MP's salary's, you pay peanuts and you get monkeys.

We need about half the MP's, earning twice the current salary who have been involved in a business prior.

However, there is about as much chance of that happening as Marko voting Tory..........

thesilentone wrote: Agree on MP's salary's, you pay peanuts and you get monkeys.

We need about half the MP's, earning twice the current salary who have been involved in a business prior.

However, there is about as much chance of that happening as Marko voting Tory..........

Also won't happen because not all parties would see business experience as a major plus. The conservatives would but parties to the left or centre wouldn't.

I think that more importantly is that cabinet ministers should have a decent knowledge of the area they are in charge of rather than having those such as Grayling, Gove and Hunt who get moved round [censored] up departments.

yoonited wrote: Hungarian PM says he'll veto any request for extension of Article 50.

Well, Big Nige is now saying he knows of three leaders who will be happy to vote against any extension so with that in mind everyone voting to accept Mays deal next week will actually be voting for a No Deal exit at the end of the month. Sort of Karma really all the pissing about they've done and someone else takes it out of their hands.

DeckchairBlue wrote: Still not sure when or where I have said I hate this country or democracy Munch.

We simply have different ideas about what democracy is and what would be best for this country.

Democracy is a victory for the side who can get the most people to vote for them by WHATEVER means.

We’re not leaving as the days go by I’m more sure of it thank goodness

chedderbob247 wrote: Let’s just say that we do leave on the 29th March under Mays deal (we won’t, and it certainly won’t be no deal). The great thing about this is that everyone that voted leave has actually lost!

The Brexit available under the deal proposed by May is nothing like the Brexit that even the most casual brexiteer would have wanted, never mind the hardcore branch of brexiteers.

It is at the point now that if Mays deal goes through (it wont) that actually brexiteers will be claiming victory when actually it is a huge, huge failure from what they wanted.

#BrexitNotBrexit could not be a more relevant hashtag in this case. Change in relationship? Yes. Brexit? Not in a million years.

Ha Ha, what a load of bollocks the only way they win the vote will be for the Torys to agree to May resigning the morning after and then you.ll get a Boris led government being backed and egged on by Big Nige and i.ll give it 6 months before they start booking the ferries.

Quite enjoyed this little treat from the Beast!

Dancingbear wrote: Wonder which way this Queensland senator would have voted had he been a MP here.

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Absolutely spot on Just a shame we don't have the politicians with the balls to stand up and say it.

And what a [censored] disgrace that PM is putting on a Muslim headdress to speak to some relatives of the shooting. But the good news is that and her immigration policies should see the end of her and her integration bullshit.

If you're a hard-working Briton who fancies moving out there for the lifestyle you've literally hundreds of loopholes to jump thru, but hey if you're a Muslim Syrian supposed refugee in a headdress the PM will pay your plane fare to get there.

Vogel wrote: I get what you are saying but since the referendum eu immigration has fallen but at the same time migration from the rest of the world, of which we have ‘control’ has risen. Presumably because the demand for migrant workers in the economy still exists. My worry is whatever outcome we get at the end of this fiasco the majority of us will be unhappy with it. Any version of leave most remainers won’t like and there were so many interpretations of leave most brexiteers will be unhappy also.

Exactly so lets at least go for the Most extreme version of leave that will at least make 25% of the winners very happy and once the rest see the country start to become great once again they.ll soon come on board and as far as i.m concerned its the remainers who.ve done nothing but cause shit for the last two years in the hope of wearing people down can go and take a running jump YOU LOST get over it and let the patriotic people get on with making Britain great again and if that means upsetting a few East European criminals and a load of Muslim freeloaders and terrorists then i.m all for it.

Taffy-P wrote: We’re not leaving as the days go by I’m more sure of it thank goodness

Dont be scared, it's a big world out there.

Feel you are going to be sadly disappointed NS

griff wrote: Thanks for that Laffy. Like a lot of business folk you seem to be saying that Brexit isn’t the road to hell that many are prophesying, and that ‘no deal’ may only give short-term pain. That’s what I thought too. I’ve been watching what many economists have been saying and although they’re split on the short-term effects, the large majority think that our future is very bright in the medium to long-term.

The problem is that we’re not led by businessmen or economists, we have politicians with vested interests to contend with. Exactly the wrong people to be handling brexit. Politics in this country needs a complete shake-up and a fresh start. Anyone who sets up a serious, moderate, centrist party now could clean up because of the increasing number of voters who are fed up with the way that both sides of the House have handled all this. And I mean a proper political party that would appeal to current MPs as well as those who might stand if they though that they could change things. Those that jumped ship recently are independents now which is a different thing and are currently helping to cement the status quo by continuing this impasse.

We need to learn from all this, and quickly.

Yes just imagine where we could have been now if we.d just given them 48 hours notice of leaving after the vote.

All the things Laffy talks about would have been two years down the line and the effects of the no deal would be long forgotten as the country started to thrive.

But no the remainers had to drag it out and out again in the hope of stopping it instead of getting on board and starting to make Britain great again. So let's just hope that if they don't like the brave new world for Britain when it comes when we leave they have the balls to stick to their principles and [censored] off and live in the desert with their refugee mates and leave the rest of us to get on with it.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

chedderbob247 wrote: Let’s just say that we do leave on the 29th March under Mays deal (we won’t, and it certainly won’t be no deal). The great thing about this is that everyone that voted leave has actually lost!

The Brexit available under the deal proposed by May is nothing like the Brexit that even the most casual brexiteer would have wanted, never mind the hardcore branch of brexiteers.

It is at the point now that if Mays deal goes through (it wont) that actually brexiteers will be claiming victory when actually it is a huge, huge failure from what they wanted.

#BrexitNotBrexit could not be a more relevant hashtag in this case. Change in relationship? Yes. Brexit? Not in a million years.

Ha Ha, what a load of bollocks the only way they win the vote will be for the Torys to agree to May resigning the morning after and then you.ll get a Boris led government being backed and egged on by Big Nige and i.ll give it 6 months before they start booking the ferries.

How many times do I need to tell you that there will be no ferries whatsoever.

Now, I know you think you are never wrong, and that even if there are no ferries you will still claim you were right every time a new ferry company is registered in the British isles, but let me just remind you. You are wrong almost exclusively!!!

Barry - I agree that getting out is the right thing, even without a deal, but you can’t get rid of the immigrants. The Health Service and our agricultural and catering/hospitality sectors would simply fall apart. Get rid of the convicted criminals - agreed. I had a hand in doing that myself when I worked in the Immigration Appeals Courts. But getting rid of the rest would reduce our tax take - we’d actually be worse off. Some of those immigrants are paying the taxes that pay the benefits of our own home-grown workshy layabouts, and also those who genuinely need benefits, for whatever reason.

If you synchronise our own employment needs through new, smarter and targeted education policies then we might be able to reduce immigration in, say, 20 years or so. But that relies on politicians making sensible decisions so I won’t hold my breath.

Barry, what happened in New Zealand shows that it’s not immigrants or people of other racial/faith backgrounds that are the problem. It’s extremists of whatever colour or creed. 99.9% of people whether immigrant or indigenous just want to live quietly and in peace, earn a living and get on with their own lives. What’s wrong with that?

griff wrote: Barry - I agree that getting out is the right thing, even without a deal, but you can’t get rid of the immigrants. The Health Service and our agricultural and catering/hospitality sectors would simply fall apart. Get rid of the convicted criminals - agreed. I had a hand in doing that myself when I worked in the Immigration Appeals Courts. But getting rid of the rest would reduce our tax take - we’d actually be worse off. Some of those immigrants are paying the taxes that pay the benefits of our own home-grown workshy layabouts, and also those who genuinely need benefits, for whatever reason.

If you synchronise our own employment needs through new, smarter and targeted education policies then we might be able to reduce immigration in, say, 20 years or so. But that relies on politicians making sensible decisions so I won’t hold my breath.

Barry, what happened in New Zealand shows that it’s not immigrants or people of other racial/faith backgrounds that are the problem. It’s extremists of whatever colour or creed. 99.9% of people whether immigrant or indigenous just want to live quietly and in peace, earn a living and get on with their own lives. What’s wrong with that?

45 pages this thread has got. This is probably the best post to be found amongst all of them. I don’t agree with the getting out part, each to their own, but the theme of the post is absolutely bang on point.

When l woke up on the morning after, overjoyed that Leave has won, l didn’t think that it was actually going to happen. Looking even more likely that it won’t.
For all the Remainers that will be happy, nobody in HoC will ever be trusted again. I expect the General Election when Theresa leave will be the lowest turn out in history.

"Barry, what happened in New Zealand shows that it’s not immigrants or people of other racial/faith backgrounds that are the problem. It’s extremists of whatever colour or creed. 99.9% of people whether immigrant or indigenous just want to live quietly and in peace, earn a living and get on with their own lives. What’s wrong with that?"

Thank you Griff.

Barry you might need to reassess your adoration of "Big Nige". The man couldn't even attract more than 100 people for his "March for leave".

I thought you said people would be out in their droves to show their dissatisfaction ?

chedderbob247 wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

chedderbob247 wrote: Let’s just say that we do leave on the 29th March under Mays deal (we won’t, and it certainly won’t be no deal). The great thing about this is that everyone that voted leave has actually lost!

The Brexit available under the deal proposed by May is nothing like the Brexit that even the most casual brexiteer would have wanted, never mind the hardcore branch of brexiteers.

It is at the point now that if Mays deal goes through (it wont) that actually brexiteers will be claiming victory when actually it is a huge, huge failure from what they wanted.

#BrexitNotBrexit could not be a more relevant hashtag in this case. Change in relationship? Yes. Brexit? Not in a million years.

Ha Ha, what a load of bollocks the only way they win the vote will be for the Torys to agree to May resigning the morning after and then you.ll get a Boris led government being backed and egged on by Big Nige and i.ll give it 6 months before they start booking the ferries.

How many times do I need to tell you that there will be no ferries whatsoever.

Now, I know you think you are never wrong, and that even if there are no ferries you will still claim you were right every time a new ferry company is registered in the British isles, but let me just remind you. You are wrong almost exclusively!!!

The ferries are booked pal the ferries are booked

griff wrote: Barry - I agree that getting out is the right thing, even without a deal, but you can’t get rid of the immigrants. The Health Service and our agricultural and catering/hospitality sectors would simply fall apart. Get rid of the convicted criminals - agreed. I had a hand in doing that myself when I worked in the Immigration Appeals Courts. But getting rid of the rest would reduce our tax take - we’d actually be worse off. Some of those immigrants are paying the taxes that pay the benefits of our own home-grown workshy layabouts, and also those who genuinely need benefits, for whatever reason.

If you synchronise our own employment needs through new, smarter and targeted education policies then we might be able to reduce immigration in, say, 20 years or so. But that relies on politicians making sensible decisions so I won’t hold my breath.

Barry, what happened in New Zealand shows that it’s not immigrants or people of other racial/faith backgrounds that are the problem. It’s extremists of whatever colour or creed. 99.9% of people whether immigrant or indigenous just want to live quietly and in peace, earn a living and get on with their own lives. What’s wrong with that?

And what's wrong with them staying in their own countries and doing it ?

Griff you clearly don't understand how draining the swamp works or at least if you do you're in denial probably for fear of being branded, racist.

You start at the bottom with the criminals and the illegals and work your way up and believe me youd have to get to the last 10% before you got to the ones we can't afford to lose. Who in all likelihood would be quite happy to pay to be able to stay here to go on earning wages they could only dream of back home [3500 x 25k brings in 875m ] which would pay to train a whole load of new British NHS nurses or keep a shedload of sure start centres open.

Not sure where you're getting all these workshy layabouts from Mother Terressa claims shes found them all jobs now doesn't she and now that numbers wise shes decimated the workforce at DWP the ones that are still there are just being left to get on with it but I think you.ll find most have simply given up on it as its simply not worth the hassle anymore if you actually get all the benefits that you're due they expect you to use your JSA to top up your HB which for most people simply makes it a waste of time and most have now switched to an angle of their own whether it be a spot of online fraud or just a business that stays below the line and avoids taxes and regulations. I use lots of girls who all claim to be legit and paying their taxes but ask for an NI number and you won't see them for dust.

Please don't fall for the tax fallacy, check the figures on in-work benefits paid to Asian families and how they profit when theres up to 4 families living in one house. If a white British family tried pulling that trick they'd be up for benefit fraud in a flash.

Remainer May's total stitch up "deal" explained.......

DeckchairBlue wrote: Barry you might need to reassess your adoration of "Big Nige". The man couldn't even attract more than 100 people for his "March for leave".

I thought you said people would be out in their droves to show their dissatisfaction ?

But they got massive press coverage [ except of course from the Corbyn Broadcasting Corporation ] and got their point across by smacking a few remainers along the way and as we.re on security duties for three days next week look out for more of the same but please feel free to come along and protest to your hearts content if you like.

Do you not understand the whole point of that sort of march is to start small and get bigger the nearer it gets to parliament so no point in getting 10k to turn up on the first day

cufcmike wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

griff wrote: Thanks for that Laffy. Like a lot of business folk you seem to be saying that Brexit isn’t the road to hell that many are prophesying, and that ‘no deal’ may only give short-term pain. That’s what I thought too. I’ve been watching what many economists have been saying and although they’re split on the short-term effects, the large majority think that our future is very bright in the medium to long-term.

The problem is that we’re not led by businessmen or economists, we have politicians with vested interests to contend with. Exactly the wrong people to be handling brexit. Politics in this country needs a complete shake-up and a fresh start. Anyone who sets up a serious, moderate, centrist party now could clean up because of the increasing number of voters who are fed up with the way that both sides of the House have handled all this. And I mean a proper political party that would appeal to current MPs as well as those who might stand if they though that they could change things. Those that jumped ship recently are independents now which is a different thing and are currently helping to cement the status quo by continuing this impasse.

We need to learn from all this, and quickly.

Yes just imagine where we could have been now if we.d just given them 48 hours notice of leaving after the vote.

All the things Laffy talks about would have been two years down the line and the effects of the no deal would be long forgotten as the country started to thrive.

But no the remainers had to drag it out and out again in the hope of stopping it instead of getting on board and starting to make Britain great again. So let's just hope that if they don't like the brave new world for Britain when it comes when we leave they have the balls to stick to their principles and [censored] off and live in the desert with their refugee mates and leave the rest of us to get on with it.

You've mentioned making Britain Great Again for awhile now. When exactly is it in history that you define us as great?

When we had an Empire and ruled over a quarter of the world of course and if we needed workers to get a job done cheaply we just sent a few ships down to Africa and rounded a few up.

Interviewer in Sky today with Corbyn

‘Do you want to leave the EU or not?’

Corbyn-‘That depends on the question’

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

DeckchairBlue wrote: Barry you might need to reassess your adoration of "Big Nige". The man couldn't even attract more than 100 people for his "March for leave".

I thought you said people would be out in their droves to show their dissatisfaction ?

But they got massive press coverage [ except of course from the Corbyn Broadcasting Corporation ] and got their point across by smacking a few remainers along the way and as we.re on security duties for three days next week look out for more of the same but please feel free to come along and protest to your hearts content if you like.

Do you not understand the whole point of that sort of march is to start small and get bigger the nearer it gets to parliament so no point in getting 10k to turn up on the first day

All I've seen is a load of old blokes walking in the rain, Is that supposed to put pressure on the government?

Ah so it'll get bigger once Nigel helicopters in to walk the last mile of it then ? Such a man of the people.

Laffy wrote: Interviewer in Sky today with Corbyn

‘Do you want to leave the EU or not?’

Corbyn-‘That depends on the question’

Meanwhile the Chancellor whos government are supposedly in charge states there wont be another vote on the PMs shoddy deal unless the DUP agree to it in advance. Great days innit?

No pony in having a vote unless you think you can win-that’s why Cameron should be sent to a salt mine for hard labour

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

cufcmike wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

griff wrote: Thanks for that Laffy. Like a lot of business folk you seem to be saying that Brexit isn’t the road to hell that many are prophesying, and that ‘no deal’ may only give short-term pain. That’s what I thought too. I’ve been watching what many economists have been saying and although they’re split on the short-term effects, the large majority think that our future is very bright in the medium to long-term.

The problem is that we’re not led by businessmen or economists, we have politicians with vested interests to contend with. Exactly the wrong people to be handling brexit. Politics in this country needs a complete shake-up and a fresh start. Anyone who sets up a serious, moderate, centrist party now could clean up because of the increasing number of voters who are fed up with the way that both sides of the House have handled all this. And I mean a proper political party that would appeal to current MPs as well as those who might stand if they though that they could change things. Those that jumped ship recently are independents now which is a different thing and are currently helping to cement the status quo by continuing this impasse.

We need to learn from all this, and quickly.

Yes just imagine where we could have been now if we.d just given them 48 hours notice of leaving after the vote.

All the things Laffy talks about would have been two years down the line and the effects of the no deal would be long forgotten as the country started to thrive.

But no the remainers had to drag it out and out again in the hope of stopping it instead of getting on board and starting to make Britain great again. So let's just hope that if they don't like the brave new world for Britain when it comes when we leave they have the balls to stick to their principles and [censored] off and live in the desert with their refugee mates and leave the rest of us to get on with it.

You've mentioned making Britain Great Again for awhile now. When exactly is it in history that you define us as great?

When we had an Empire and ruled over a quarter of the world of course and if we needed workers to get a job done cheaply we just sent a few ships down to Africa and rounded a few up.

So the the 40s, when we had relinquished control of India/Canada/Australia ?

Let's go back to there when we had Polio and Rationing. Great idea.

Barry, I’m not sure that you’ll get rid of more than a few criminals and illegals. Convicted criminals coming out of prison, fair enough. But the thing about criminals of whatever background is that there are always more of them than those who you know, so how do you find them all? You’ll struggle to fill a ferry with the ones that are obvious, and quite how you’re going to get some of them to India, the Philippines, the States, Brazil etc on these ferries that you say are booked is beyond me.

Illegals are the same. Because they are illegal the Border Force have struggled to get on top of them all for decades, and with a much reduced workforce even since my day they’ll struggle even more. Or are you relying on finger-pointers? Noloriously unreliable? Or does someone have a database? Interested to know.

Barry's plan more than likely involves rounding up anyone that 'looks a bit foreign'.

Daltrey nails it.

Blair and Major signed treaties that have left us powerless in EU.Those treaties should have been put to the voters of UK but they never were.As far as I am concerned Blair and Major have committed treason

Here’s another one for all your Corbynites today-not withstanding his admiration of terrorists the IRA and Hamas, who blow people to bits in cold blood,the army should be prosecuted over the Bloody Sunday shootings.It was Blair of course who allowed side letters to be issued to IRA gunmen on the run but he obviously forgot the British Army

cufcmike wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

cufcmike wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

griff wrote: Thanks for that Laffy. Like a lot of business folk you seem to be saying that Brexit isn’t the road to hell that many are prophesying, and that ‘no deal’ may only give short-term pain. That’s what I thought too. I’ve been watching what many economists have been saying and although they’re split on the short-term effects, the large majority think that our future is very bright in the medium to long-term.

The problem is that we’re not led by businessmen or economists, we have politicians with vested interests to contend with. Exactly the wrong people to be handling brexit. Politics in this country needs a complete shake-up and a fresh start. Anyone who sets up a serious, moderate, centrist party now could clean up because of the increasing number of voters who are fed up with the way that both sides of the House have handled all this. And I mean a proper political party that would appeal to current MPs as well as those who might stand if they though that they could change things. Those that jumped ship recently are independents now which is a different thing and are currently helping to cement the status quo by continuing this impasse.

We need to learn from all this, and quickly.

Yes just imagine where we could have been now if we.d just given them 48 hours notice of leaving after the vote.

All the things Laffy talks about would have been two years down the line and the effects of the no deal would be long forgotten as the country started to thrive.

But no the remainers had to drag it out and out again in the hope of stopping it instead of getting on board and starting to make Britain great again. So let's just hope that if they don't like the brave new world for Britain when it comes when we leave they have the balls to stick to their principles and [censored] off and live in the desert with their refugee mates and leave the rest of us to get on with it.

You've mentioned making Britain Great Again for awhile now. When exactly is it in history that you define us as great?

When we had an Empire and ruled over a quarter of the world of course and if we needed workers to get a job done cheaply we just sent a few ships down to Africa and rounded a few up.

Make your mind up eh. I thought you didn't like cheap foreign labour?

No but i.m all for free foreign labour

DeckchairBlue wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

DeckchairBlue wrote: Barry you might need to reassess your adoration of "Big Nige". The man couldn't even attract more than 100 people for his "March for leave".

I thought you said people would be out in their droves to show their dissatisfaction ?

But they got massive press coverage [ except of course from the Corbyn Broadcasting Corporation ] and got their point across by smacking a few remainers along the way and as we.re on security duties for three days next week look out for more of the same but please feel free to come along and protest to your hearts content if you like.

Do you not understand the whole point of that sort of march is to start small and get bigger the nearer it gets to parliament so no point in getting 10k to turn up on the first day

All I've seen is a load of old blokes walking in the rain, Is that supposed to put pressure on the government?

Ah so it'll get bigger once Nigel helicopters in to walk the last mile of it then ? Such a man of the people.

I imagine he has more important things on today like making sure we have a few votes for no extension which would then, in turn, secure No Deal and finally set us free. And really piss you and your like off which would be a big bonus for me.

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Laffy wrote: No pony in having a vote unless you think you can win-that’s why Cameron should be sent to a salt mine for hard labour

I agree with you on Cameron but the first bit its hard to argue that case given the 2 votes that have gone before when she knew she had no chance. Seems now shes relying on trying to blackmail enough people into thinking it wont happen at all if they dont vote for her deal. Its a complete disaster and im not sure if given the chance id vote for it over remaining.

Put to the voters ! You have got to be joking ..Most of the voters didn`t have a clue what they were voting for and probably still don`t..If we`re given a second vote there is no way they would put as an option " Leave without a deal" because we`re daft enough to vote for it.........Why do you think they do`nt have a referendum on hanging ?? ..because they think the public might vote it in.

Sammy Taylor wrote: Put to the voters ! You have got to be joking ..Most of the voters didn`t have a clue what they were voting for and probably still don`t..If we`re given a second vote there is no way they would put as an option " Leave without a deal" because we`re daft enough to vote for it.........Why do you think they do`nt have a referendum on hanging ?? ..because they think the public might vote it in.

I.m quite happy with another referendum so long as the two options are

1] Leave with NO DEAL

2] Leave with Mays Deal

The last referendum established the fact that we.re leaving so staying is history just let it go for god's sake anything but a simple vote on the method is a threat to democracy.

And given that I would be confident that NO DEAL would win as millions of people would vote that way just to piss off our arsehole MP.S who have done everything they can to frustrate the will of the majority of the people.

If I had my way those who voted to stay wouldn't even get a vote once your side has lost you're out and have no further say in what happens a bit like the FA Cup.

But whats for sure any future referendum should either be the end of the story no chance for MP.S to hijack it with their own agendas or at least in a vote in which MP.S would be forced to vote in the way their constituents did.

The DUP are going to be laughing all the way to the bank. The shitty union that is the uk leaves the English especially the north as being second class citizens.
What a load of bollocks!

The sad thing is Ireland will unite in a couple of decades time-demographic change will see this through.Meantime, it’s bribes

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Sammy Taylor wrote: Put to the voters ! You have got to be joking ..Most of the voters didn`t have a clue what they were voting for and probably still don`t..If we`re given a second vote there is no way they would put as an option " Leave without a deal" because we`re daft enough to vote for it.........Why do you think they do`nt have a referendum on hanging ?? ..because they think the public might vote it in.

I.m quite happy with another referendum so long as the two options are

1] Leave with NO DEAL

2] Leave with Mays Deal

The last referendum established the fact that we.re leaving so staying is history just let it go for god's sake anything but a simple vote on the method is a threat to democracy.

And given that I would be confident that NO DEAL would win as millions of people would vote that way just to piss off our arsehole MP.S who have done everything they can to frustrate the will of the majority of the people.

If I had my way those who voted to stay wouldn't even get a vote once your side has lost you're out and have no further say in what happens a bit like the FA Cup.

But whats for sure any future referendum should either be the end of the story no chance for MP.S to hijack it with their own agendas or at least in a vote in which MP.S would be forced to vote in the way their constituents did.

Sounds like we have all been shafted then pal as on the radio I have just heard that Corbyn would back a referendum of staying in the EU or Mays Deal to pass her suggested 'non' Brexit that wouldn't happen if Corbyn gets his way.

N S That was the problem 2 year ago people voted in their millions not for whats best for Britain in or out but to just piss off Cameron and Parliment....Is that the way to decide on the future of this country?

Corbyn up to his normal tricks - the bloke is a total shan.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/corbyn-s...r-BBUSs6l?li=BBoPWjQ

munchymagic wrote: Corbyn up to his normal tricks - the bloke is a total shan.

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/politics/corbyn-s...r-BBUSs6l?li=BBoPWjQ

Has May said he shouldnt be charged?

Laffy wrote: Here’s another one for all your Corbynites today-not withstanding his admiration of terrorists the IRA and Hamas, who blow people to bits in cold blood,the army should be prosecuted over the Bloody Sunday shootings.It was Blair of course who allowed side letters to be issued to IRA gunmen on the run but he obviously forgot the British Army

They massacred unarmed British citizens on British soil, most of which were running away, some of who were helping those already injured.

They should be prosecuted for the crimes they committed.

It doesn't matter what the government decided in the past with IRA members, that doesn't excuse what our soldiers did.

Though if your interested in digging up the past it'd be better if the Tory party were clean. The party supported Apartheid and Thatcher wasn't just a terrorist sympathiser, she was very good friends with an actual terrorist turned dictator in Pinochet.