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18 Jun 2018 10:34 #1 by CCU
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18 Jun 2018 10:50 #2 by Lufbrablue
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Newcastle u21 v Sunderland first team could be interesting. Would also help skew the average attendances in Harveys favour

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18 Jun 2018 10:51 #3 by bejustandfearprokas
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Lufbrablue wrote: Newcastle u21 v Sunderland first team could be interesting. Would also help skew the average attendances in Harveys favour


Hope it doesn't happen for exactly that reason.

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18 Jun 2018 11:58 #4 by Dancingbear
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Looks like this competition is starting to bear fruit. Assuming you believe that article.

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18 Jun 2018 14:31 #5 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Dancingbear wrote: Looks like this competition is starting to bear fruit. Assuming you believe that article.


Or you can look at it the other way in that nearly 50% of the PL clubs academies are refusing to take part.

And as they say, every picture tells a story and its pretty clear what story the picture they've used on there article shows. Thousands of empty seats everywhere you look.

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18 Jun 2018 15:57 #6 by Dancingbear
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Are they refusing or have the EFL asked the ones who got relegated but have previously supported it? Looks like there’s only Boro there who haven’t been in Prem either last season or this season.

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18 Jun 2018 16:31 - 18 Jun 2018 16:33 #7 by CCU
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Dancingbear wrote: Are they refusing or have the EFL asked the ones who got relegated but have previously supported it? Looks like there’s only Boro there who haven’t been in Prem either last season or this season.


“The invited teams were selected based on their final league position at the end of the 2017/18 season. The first 16 were invited to take part, and then subsequent teams – with Category One Academy status – invited as required”

Not completely clear that? First 16 are asked, then is it simply ‘Anyone else fancy a go’? Sunderland finished second but were they refused as actual first team are in it now? Clear as mud!

Complete shambles. Well done to Man Utd and Liverpool for steering clear still...

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18 Jun 2018 19:24 - 18 Jun 2018 19:30 #8 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Dancingbear wrote: Are they refusing or have the EFL asked the ones who got relegated but have previously supported it? Looks like there’s only Boro there who haven’t been in Prem either last season or this season.


Top 16 invited then worked their way down the list of clubs with cat 1 academies in the order they finished in their leagues until they had 16 acceptances ie when they got to Middleboro

I believe Bournemouth and Burnley,s academies weren't Cat 1 but I believe Burnley is now with the completion of the new Barnfield complex

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18 Jun 2018 23:16 #9 by Flatcap
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Seems to me that all these academy sides do is feed the loan market.
Very few make the first team squad.

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19 Jun 2018 07:35 #10 by Northumbrian
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It's an absolute shower that they continue to ignore the fans with regard to this tournament. I won't be attending any games, including any potential final, this season, or any other season that B teams are in the tournament. It's just wrong.

3 - 5 games against tier 4 teams is not going to significantly help any player development. If they want their players to gain experience then send them out on loan... They will experience real league games and probably get way more than 5 games. We will have a few of them at Brunton Park please.

This whole "experiment" is a nonsense. Simply a thinly disguised attempt to shoehorn B teams into the league structure in future. If lower tier teams or their fans support this sham then they are very naive about the ultimate intentions.

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19 Jun 2018 11:20 #11 by Dancingbear
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To be fair if they wanted to show horn them in they’d try to do it anyway regardless of this daft decision. In fact I’d say if it was part of a master plan them Man Utd and Liverpool would definitely be in it.

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19 Jun 2018 12:10 #12 by Waltero
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I still won't be going to any of these games total waste of my time
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19 Jun 2018 18:35 - 19 Jun 2018 18:36 #13 by Northumbrian
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Dancingbear wrote: To be fair if they wanted to show horn them in they’d try to do it anyway regardless of this daft decision. In fact I’d say if it was part of a master plan them Man Utd and Liverpool would definitely be in it.

They tried and it was shot down ... a step too far it seems. So they look to establish B teams in another competition and suddenly that step doesn't seem so big. Classic negotiating.

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19 Jun 2018 18:37 #14 by munchymagic
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I do not recognise the Coventry win last season in the competition and will fail to see it as anything other than a reserve run out till they kick out the unwelcomed teams.

Nice little competition this one, or it was till they messed with it.
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19 Jun 2018 18:38 #15 by Dancingbear
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Dancingbear wrote: To be fair if they wanted to show horn them in they’d try to do it anyway regardless of this daft decision. In fact I’d say if it was part of a master plan them Man Utd and Liverpool would definitely be in it.

They tried and it was shot down ... a step too far it seems. So they look to establish B teams in another competition and suddenly that step doesn't seem so big. Classic negotiating.

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Who shot it down? and wouldnt they just shoot it down again?. Just to be clear im in no way supporting them being in this competition.

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19 Jun 2018 19:19 #16 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Dancingbear wrote:

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Dancingbear wrote: To be fair if they wanted to show horn them in they’d try to do it anyway regardless of this daft decision. In fact I’d say if it was part of a master plan them Man Utd and Liverpool would definitely be in it.

They tried and it was shot down ... a step too far it seems. So they look to establish B teams in another competition and suddenly that step doesn't seem so big. Classic negotiating.

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Who shot it down? and wouldnt they just shoot it down again?. Just to be clear im in no way supporting them being in this competition.


Until the likes of Harvey are removed from the FL The PL will have an ally at worst and a puppet at best on their payroll which means they could well get whatever they want in the long term.

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19 Jun 2018 19:30 #17 by Dancingbear
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

Northumbrian wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: To be fair if they wanted to show horn them in they’d try to do it anyway regardless of this daft decision. In fact I’d say if it was part of a master plan them Man Utd and Liverpool would definitely be in it.

They tried and it was shot down ... a step too far it seems. So they look to establish B teams in another competition and suddenly that step doesn't seem so big. Classic negotiating.

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Who shot it down? and wouldnt they just shoot it down again?. Just to be clear im in no way supporting them being in this competition.


Until the likes of Harvey are removed from the FL The PL will have an ally at worst and a puppet at best on their payroll which means they could well get whatever they want in the long term.


Exactly Barry which is why i dont think them being in this competition will have any bearing on B teams getting in the league structure. They still shouldnt be in it though.

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19 Jun 2018 19:57 #18 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Dancingbear wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

Northumbrian wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: To be fair if they wanted to show horn them in they’d try to do it anyway regardless of this daft decision. In fact I’d say if it was part of a master plan them Man Utd and Liverpool would definitely be in it.

They tried and it was shot down ... a step too far it seems. So they look to establish B teams in another competition and suddenly that step doesn't seem so big. Classic negotiating.

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Who shot it down? and wouldnt they just shoot it down again?. Just to be clear im in no way supporting them being in this competition.


Until the likes of Harvey are removed from the FL The PL will have an ally at worst and a puppet at best on their payroll which means they could well get whatever they want in the long term.


Exactly Barry which is why i dont think them being in this competition will have any bearing on B teams getting in the league structure. They still shouldnt be in it though.


Well it seems they've given up on trying to convince the fans and are concentrating their efforts on the clubs instead they've certainly done a job on Andy Holt despite Accy [ and us ] picking up the magnificent sum of 50k from it last year [ Accy are still waiting to find out whether they.ll get the 20k compensation money they asked for ]

I.ve shown him a pretty detailed proposal that shows how all clubs would generate a minimum 100k with no PL money and give him his due hes asked the FL why it wouldn't work and whether the figures add up and hes promised to let me know when they get back to him. But i have my doubts they.ll give him the figures because I cant see how they can hide the near million pounds from the final receipts that simply disappears into thin air.

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13 Jul 2018 16:57 #19 by CCU
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Group A - Carlisle, Sunderland, Morecambe and an invited team.


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13 Jul 2018 16:59 #20 by Dancingbear
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Good draw that. Should be a couple of decent away trips for those interested.

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13 Jul 2018 17:04 #21 by CCU
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Dancingbear wrote: Good draw that. Should be a couple of decent away trips for those interested.


Isn’t it only one Away game as the invited teams always play Away?

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13 Jul 2018 17:21 #22 by Dancingbear
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CCU wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Good draw that. Should be a couple of decent away trips for those interested.


Isn’t it only one Away game as the invited teams always play Away?


No idea really

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13 Jul 2018 17:24 #23 by nobbyblue
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It'll be Sunderland's first team remember.

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13 Jul 2018 17:33 #24 by CCU
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Newcastle aren’t allowed to be drawn in our Group as the Police won’t allow it!


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13 Jul 2018 17:37 #25 by nobbyblue
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Just another farcical thing about this competition with the rossers influencing the draw!
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13 Jul 2018 17:39 #26 by CCU
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Wasn’t it Pompey and Southampton were barred from each other last season too?

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13 Jul 2018 17:40 #27 by Wukkie
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Will the invited team be for Tajikistan, Comoros Islands or Guam. I wouldn't be surprised with Harvey. We might have to ask the UN or the local police force if we can play them too.

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13 Jul 2018 17:40 #28 by Tonyhemmings
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Dancingbear wrote:

CCU wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Good draw that. Should be a couple of decent away trips for those interested.


Isn’t it only one Away game as the invited teams always play Away?


No idea really


The away game will be Sunderland because we played Morecambe away last season. According to the article, 'if there is a situation where two teams meet in the Group Stages for a second successive season, then the club who was at home in 2017/18 will play away in 2018/19'.
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13 Jul 2018 17:49 #29 by seesaw50
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It can't be Newcastle......Jon Colman just tweeted

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13 Jul 2018 17:53 #30 by CCU
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seesaw50 wrote: It can't be Newcastle......Jon Colman just tweeted


We know... :whistle:

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13 Jul 2018 18:04 #31 by CCU
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Tonyhemmings wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

CCU wrote:

Dancingbear wrote: Good draw that. Should be a couple of decent away trips for those interested.


Isn’t it only one Away game as the invited teams always play Away?


No idea really


The away game will be Sunderland because we played Morecambe away last season. According to the article, 'if there is a situation where two teams meet in the Group Stages for a second successive season, then the club who was at home in 2017/18 will play away in 2018/19'.


Confirmed by Club...


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13 Jul 2018 18:14 #32 by Dancingbear
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Spot on, may have a run through to Sunderland ;)

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13 Jul 2018 19:47 #33 by bruntonpete
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Talk about making the rules up as they go along. It is almost like organising a set of pre season friendlies to suit the club's and a run around for the kids.
I attended an inter schools primary tournament the other day. That had more riding on it that the Cheque and Trade trophy.
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14 Jul 2018 00:35 #34 by Flatcap
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Maybe not Newcastle U21 but could be Middlesbrough U21.
Imagine that would go down well with the Sunderland fans.

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16 Jul 2018 20:22 #35 by Northumbrian
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A shambles of a competition and a thinly veiled attempt to normalize B teams in lower league competition, before shoehorning them into the league structure. I live in the North East but won't be going to Sunderland... in fact I wouldn't walk to the end of my street to watch any game in a tournament that includes B teams. I hope we bomb out in the group stages... We are too good for this pile of shite competition.

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26 Jul 2018 12:01 #38 by Dancingbear
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Wonder how many we’ll take to Sunderland.

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26 Jul 2018 12:13 #39 by bejustandfearprokas
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Dancingbear wrote: Wonder how many we’ll take to Sunderland.


I live in Newcastle, but unfortunately will be washing my hair that night, so can't make the small journey.
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26 Jul 2018 13:01 #40 by Mortonblue
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I would love to go to SOL,but will not go on principle due to the current format.

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26 Jul 2018 13:32 #41 by pigeonpete
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Dancingbear wrote: Wonder how many we’ll take to Sunderland.


Probably the whole squad :)

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26 Jul 2018 14:04 #42 by Dancingbear
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So you think it’s more likely we’ll get that top bit again and not the full stand behind the goal?

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26 Jul 2018 14:07 #43 by pigeonpete
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Maybe just the away bench

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07 Aug 2018 21:18 #44 by CCU
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This season’s edition actually starts tonight. Swindon v Chelsea moved forward as Chelsea can’t usually play in the International weeks bookmarked for the competition as most of their Youth are called up for their respective National Squads!

Shambles still...

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07 Aug 2018 22:03 #45 by Dancingbear
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Good win for Chelsea. Should see us in good stead for the 2026 World Cup.

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07 Aug 2018 22:12 #46 by nobbyblue
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1569 in attendance

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08 Aug 2018 15:27 #47 by Wukkie
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1569 too many.
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10 Aug 2018 01:17 #48 by Flatcap
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The EFL run two cup competitions and the Premier League have now gate crashed both of them.

Starting to think that the Premier League U21 teams should be allowed to continue to play in the Checkatrade Trophy but that the League Cup should only be for EFL clubs.
After all the Premier League treat it as a Mickey Mouse competition anyway, so bomb them off..

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10 Aug 2018 05:53 #49 by CCU
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Nah, don’t give into them. The CheckATrade is a busted flush. Scrap it.

Then make the League Cup for the 72 only, as you say, PL teams are only really interested at about the Semi stage...

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11 Aug 2018 23:17 #50 by Flatcap
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I'd say:

OK you want to play your academy sides in the Checkatrade Trophy.
Under one condition, and that is you no longer play in the EFL League cup.

Big problem with that is Harvey, who is right up the Premier League arses..

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