New Workington stadium at last

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12 Oct 2018 09:03 - 12 Oct 2018 09:08 #1 by a66blue
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8000 seats but in Workington new stadium to be built by council for reds and town announced this morning.
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12 Oct 2018 09:07 #2 by CCU
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Win or Lose, Up The Blues!

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12 Oct 2018 09:19 #3 by bejustandfearprokas
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Well done to Reds, Town and their council. They've achieved a lot more than ours!
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12 Oct 2018 09:58 #4 by bluestblue
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Workington more progressive than Carlisle. Sums up a lot really

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12 Oct 2018 12:47 #5 by Whiteside
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Much needed boost for sport in west cumbria, could still not go ahead as some councillors are trying to derail the project and the speedway lot are kicking up a fuss

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12 Oct 2018 13:33 #6 by crunchblue
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Looks great



for them

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12 Oct 2018 13:42 #7 by pacirv
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Puts us to shame.

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12 Oct 2018 13:47 #8 by CCU
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Whiteside wrote: Much needed boost for sport in west cumbria, could still not go ahead as some councillors are trying to derail the project and the speedway lot are kicking up a fuss


What sort of crowds get to the Speedway fixtures?

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12 Oct 2018 13:49 #9 by lbtufty
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You'd hope it might be a bit of a wake-up call for the old farts at Carlisle Council but I doubt it.

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12 Oct 2018 14:39 - 12 Oct 2018 19:47 #10 by heilkmoon
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CCU wrote:

Whiteside wrote: Much needed boost for sport in west cumbria, could still not go ahead as some councillors are trying to derail the project and the speedway lot are kicking up a fuss


What sort of crowds get to the Speedway fixtures?


Speedway attendance figures are surprisingly difficult to come by. When they were doing well in the Carl Stonehewer era circa 2004 they used to average over 1,000 with 2,500 for big nights.

Think it's tailed off since across the sport in general, but I'd guess their attendances are still at least comparable with if not better than Reds.
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12 Oct 2018 14:47 #11 by Waltero
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And the old farts at BP

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12 Oct 2018 17:10 - 13 Oct 2018 14:34 #12 by Wukkie
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I wonder if they're going to install these 7G pitches Steve Patt was on about like they have at Barnet?

I'd much prefer natural grass myself. I'm guessing Reds would have to go t'et Rugby ground for a season.
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12 Oct 2018 18:56 #13 by Carlisleprogrammes
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Reds will need a ground share while it's being built

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12 Oct 2018 19:28 #14 by munchymagic
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A new stadium with 7G or whatever would facilitate both rugby and football unlike it was like at Newport - whatever level the clubs play at grass is going to get turfed up if you mix the two.

Shame is over that way is that there is such a healthy rivalry between Workington and Whitehaven in the sport of rugby that people from Whitehaven are more reluctant to support Workington in football.

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12 Oct 2018 23:56 #15 by bruntonpete
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Shameful but well done to those out west. 8000 ambition is ambitious. It is like us going for 15k to 20k. Sadly our council and board can't even facilitate a meagre 10k city stadium. What a shame and what an embarrassment that carlisle plods on with no ambition or vision. If Workington, Scunthorpe, Rotherham, st Helens, Warrington, Wigan, Leigh, accrington, Exeter, barnet, Fleetwood and God knows how many other similar or smaller and poorer towns can fund new or upgraded grounds why can't we?
It is a disgrace and those in the council and at the club have failed us. Yet again.
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13 Oct 2018 14:35 #16 by Wukkie
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I hope the council are going to start dredging the rivers otherwise the ground will be a write-off in no time once it floods down there again.

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10 Jan 2019 08:54 #17 by CCU
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10 Jan 2019 08:57 #18 by nobbyblue
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It'll be the best ground in the North West Counties League by far.
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10 Jan 2019 09:08 #19 by Dancingbear
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Looks like they’ve nicked their plans from here.

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10 Jan 2019 09:50 - 10 Jan 2019 09:52 #20 by thesilentone
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£25.0m on a Stadium, with partners....Looks like a decent business plan. Hopefully the Council are not considering PFI.

Carlisle are going to spend £19.0m on a swimming pool, cheapskate Marra's..........

Fear not, there turning the Sheepmount into a Speedway Track.......
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10 Jan 2019 10:03 #21 by CCU
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Gone up from £15m to £25m in 3 Months!

Though that maybe as they want to put the facilities in for such office usage?

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10 Jan 2019 14:55 #22 by Dancingbear
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CCU wrote: Gone up from £15m to £25m in 3 Months!

Though that maybe as they want to put the facilities in for such office usage?


Plus there’s a drive to move non essential workers from Sellafield to the local towns. Couple of big office blocks have been built in Whitehaven so no doubt this is a good way to move another load.

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10 Jan 2019 17:49 #23 by NORTHERNSOUL
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Dancingbear wrote:

CCU wrote: Gone up from £15m to £25m in 3 Months!

Though that maybe as they want to put the facilities in for such office usage?


Plus there’s a drive to move non essential workers from Sellafield to the local towns. Couple of big office blocks have been built in Whitehaven so no doubt this is a good way to move another load.


But the whole point is you turn your excess space into offices and then lease them out to create an income not spend another 10 million creating them specially as all the lease payments are going to do is pay off the 10 million of extra borrowings unless theres something they're not telling us at this stage like say a million pounds a year for 20 years naming rights deal for the whole complex hich would bring a massive bounty for the council But I can't see it myself

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10 Jan 2019 18:52 #24 by Dancingbear
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NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

CCU wrote: Gone up from £15m to £25m in 3 Months!

Though that maybe as they want to put the facilities in for such office usage?


Plus there’s a drive to move non essential workers from Sellafield to the local towns. Couple of big office blocks have been built in Whitehaven so no doubt this is a good way to move another load.


But the whole point is you turn your excess space into offices and then lease them out to create an income not spend another 10 million creating them specially as all the lease payments are going to do is pay off the 10 million of extra borrowings unless theres something they're not telling us at this stage like say a million pounds a year for 20 years naming rights deal for the whole complex hich would bring a massive bounty for the council But I can't see it myself


Well I’d guess the plans to include the office space will have changed somewhat from the original plan was and I’d also guess the NDA will be paying a fair whack towards it.

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18 Mar 2019 11:27 #25 by Laffy
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Looks like Workington have found a possible way to fund their new stadium with some creative work with a developer and the council

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18 Mar 2019 11:41 #26 by Waltero
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I think our relationship with the council is poor. Needs working on but I doubt whether our owners have the intelligence to do that

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18 Mar 2019 12:07 #27 by Laffy
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It looks like quite a smart way of doing it to be honest-I’m guessing council can underwrite a long lease and sell it to an annuity fund off about 40yp-say 2.5p yield with RPI increases, backed onto some commercial leases like the NHS.A lot of these deals about in the market as annuity funds are desperate for long term yield.

To do this,you need a developer working with the Council-this would absolutely be my way of building a new BP.Its a variation of PFI but with the rate of interest being a fraction of the old PFI schemes.

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18 Mar 2019 12:21 #28 by Waltero
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I hope someone from the BOD reads this board and realises what a good opportunity they've missed by sitting round a table and giving your plans proper consideration instead of digging a "billionaire" out of thin air

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18 Mar 2019 12:51 #29 by Laffy
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To be honest I didn’t give much thought to the stadium at the time-focus was on stabilising the ship,improving the back office and making the ownership structure an investable proposition.

Since then, the stadium has come to the front through the floods etc but without an investable capital structure, it would be mad to consider a new stadium.Remember the Trust can block any new equity raise if it has the potential to dilute.
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