TOPIC: Rate our transfer window out of 10.

And show your workings.

7/10.
I'm actually quite happy.

The likes of Mckee, Atkinson and Penn out for Liddle, Proctor and O'Sullivan in seem to be good business. Those three COULD end up being good players for us.

Bit gutted about Charlie, but we'll always get balls into the box with Adams (and hopefully O'Sullivan), and with this giant we've singed and Proctor who is supposed to be strong and battling, then Miller snooping around there, hopefully we'll start scoring more than 1 a game again. (not forgetting Jabo still has something to offer I hope.)

Would have loved a left back, thought letting Ellis go wasn't a great idea, would have rather Brisley went. I wonder if Liddle will be a main feature of our defence.

0 out of 10.. blindingly obvious tactics from the horsemen... only liddle of significance .....


After more thought i wont give any marks...i am simply disgusted.

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Up-front additions decent.
Defensive cover, I thought, was a must.

5/10

I'm a 7 too. Not that bothered about Wyke, it was always on the cards. Nicky Adams is awarded an assist for this transfer that's for sure. But to bring in 2 centre forwards is great, I remember us losing Bridges to Hull on deadline day a few years back and replacing him with nowt.
It has been a blessing in disguise that Adams himself has gone off the boil through January, if he'd carried on he would have been under the spotlight. The same could be said about the absence of Mike Jones who was having a great season - having him back will be like a new signing.

The lack of a decent left back is the main concern, I would prefer them playing 3-5-2 and see how that goes. Looking forward to Saturday...

A generous 5/10

Can't help feel a bit deflated at the lack of cover in vital areas. Some potentially decent loan signings but the big kick in the teeth is letting the Wyke thing drag on until it was too late to do anything about it. As some say, it seems a bit like tactics by the board and unless they come out and say we were paid £350-500k, it looks like this was a deliberate ploy to stop KC spending some of the money. The board could easily have fixed or spun this, but they seem to have nothing but contempt for the fans.

Incoming look like decent players. Should now carry a threat on both wings, providing O'Sullivan goes straight in to the side. Unfortunately, we look likely to need 3 new forwards in the summer. There is still no cover at LB, and a squad which was stretched going into the month is now even smaller.

Wyke was inevitable, but the club has not handled the situation well.

On reflection, it's too early to say how well the window went. Could be anywhere from 3/10 to 6/10.

The failure to land a left back is verging on criminal.

I think the board were trying to maximise value to be honest and that's fine.Problem is they too are in the overseas investor vacuum.Selling a player every year to balance the books I'm afraid is real life in the lower divisions.

I think buying a player was not really an option but taking a couple of high quality loanees was entirely realistic.

Lost 1 first teamer and got 4 potentials in. Cant Complain (apart from left back)

6.5/10

Wyke was inevitable, but the club has not handled the situation well.


A couple of days ago I thought we were possibly going to keep him. I get the impression Keef was trying to persuade him to stay here till the end of the season, try and get to 30 goals, then go for an even better deal in the summer. Hence after the release clause was met it all slowed down.

4/10 -Liddle sounds solid but we needed a LB as a priority - we will continue to leak goals every match, we have lost Wyke who has scored half our goals.

Waring, 22, spent the first half of the season with Shrewsbury, playing 19 games without scoring.
Proctor, 24, has played 29 games for the Trotters this season, scoring once.

Thats 48 games and 1 goal between them.

O'Sullivan has played 25 games from Accrington and scored twice.

I dont know where the goals are going to come from now. We will not get promotion - Exeter who are on fire, Portsmouth & Luton will all finish above us. We should scrape 7th

Laffy wrote:
Understood and partly in agreement, but forward thinking owners may take a gamble considering the strong league position we have?

I think that we can be very pleased with the 2 strikers coming in, especially Proctor who has a CV in the lower divisions.

O'Sullivan should be an improvement out wide on the right.

We are TWO signings short, how did we not manage to sign a left back, either a youngster on loan or a player from the lower leagues? Beats me, must have been a bit of a balls-up methinks.

And surely either a CB or a CM, we are short on numbers, which KC will be very aware of.

So - It has to be a 5

4.5/10 for me. Its obvious to everyone we need a LB. Mind you we did without a RB for 3 years. Bit surprised that McKee went as well.

torbayblue wrote:
6/10 I wasn't that disappointed about CW, his conversion rate wasn't that great. Think that Proctor and Miller could be a good pairing. Liddle looks good on player, lack of a left back or centre back is criminal though

Urban Designer wrote:
Nicky Adams has scored once. O'Sullivan is a wide man, as in if he is playing right win he will hug the touchline. Adams and Lambe like to come inside.

Potentially an absolute disaster . Whke gone replaced by two loan strikers who have featured in 48 games and scored 1 goal between them.
8 contracted players either released or loaned out with no recall , with 2 perminant player arriving .
Atkinson , Ellis and Brough all given extended contracts at the end of last season all gone ,Grainger long term injury and Brisley injured and transfer listed anyway.,where is our defence?
We are going to get injuries and suspensions that's a given ,we are making it as difficult as we can ,it's as if we don't want promotion.
On the deals so far we must have saved at least a couple of thousand a week on wages,we also raised 12,000 to go towards a player.
We now have sold our most valuable asset with the proceeds almost certainly going to balance the books and pay off dept.
Thank goodness for Liddle, can we clone him and play him at LB,CB and CM please.
Rant over ,up the blues.

Urban Designer wrote:
How many games have they both started this season just out of interest? I see your point but in the past both players have proven they can score goals at a higher level, and I think Jon Colman pointed out on Twitter before that Proctor had his most productive spell at Crawley where guess who was providing for him out on the wing? Our very own Nicky Adams! So hopefully they can rekindle that partnership. Neither have them have been prolific recently but as many have said neither was Wyke before we signed. I'm not saying they're going to be world beaters be let's give the lads a chance before we write them off eh? I for one feel optimistic about the forward options.

Only issue I have is the shortage at the back!

3/10.. Because players have gone and too many loans brought in. You have to replace an asset and they did not.
Very much a sign to the fans- The BoD do NOT want to go up.
There is no investor. If there was there would have been more positivity in the players brought in.

Apart from Wyke (shame but inevitable) I think it's probably OK. Yes defence could have done with something but at least we haven't signed some random player for the sake of a signing which seems to have been the case at times in the past. I trust the managements judgment of players, they have done us all right so far on the whole, so 6/10

As mentioned above, signing 2 forwards that between them have contributed 1 goal in 48 appearences is poor. Their parent clubs probably couldnt of got them out the door quick enough. a very very poor transfer window with key positions that are needing addressed not having been. Getting back to the players that have been released-these were players that not to long ago were deemed good enough with the management team etc having done all their homework etc on them and now 6-12 month down the line their deemed to be not good enough. Very strange!! And dont tell me weve pushed on that much in that time because we havnt and the last 10-12 games shows that!!!!

A deal for Left Back Kieran Wallace from sheff united fell through late last night.

TheLazyLewisGuy wrote:
Saw he'd been recalled from Fleetwood to go to a L2 team on loan and thought it may have been us...

I'm not unhappy. 6.5/10

At lunchtime yesterday there was a lot of doom on gloom on here saying Wyke was going to be replaced by no-one.

Then it was we're only going to get Waring and bigger clubs than us are in for Proctor so we've no chance.

So to come out of it with both of them to replace Wyke is pretty good, of the two Proctor has a decent track record with Waring being more of a prospect.

O'Sullivan too sounds like a good signing.

The lack of defensive additions is a concern though, can only assume we're going to try and pull a free agency rabbit out of a hat or that players currently out injured will be back sooner than expected.

Waring hardly given a good run at Shrewsbury going by them minutes played per game. But 0 goals in 19 sounds better and more negative so lets go with that

TheLazyLewisGuy wrote:
I imagine Proctor will have had even less minutes with them having Madine, Clough etc at their disposal

TheLazyLewisGuy wrote:
Source? Any idea what the issue was?

Seems Proctor fell out of favour quickly at the end of September.

Kangshung wrote:
I just made it up But he was set to join a league two side on loan and it fell through.

We can still sign unattached playeRd hopefully KC has that in mind.

TheLazyLewisGuy wrote:
597 mins in total - basically 6 and a half games.

I will be generous and give it 4/10. We have a threadbare squad with 4 currently injured and no news as to when they are likely to be back. I wonder what Curle's excuse will be for not signing a left back as if he thinks we don't need one he should pack his bags and go! It's also obvious that there is no overseas or any other investor waiting in the wings as if there was then the need to strength the side should have induced him to part with some cash to help maximise his/her future investment!

pacirv wrote:
This

TheLazyLewisGuy wrote:
Also, may get shot down for this, but some strikers' aren't there to score so much. Imagine given his size, he's going to battle and bring players on to te game. Maybe someone like Miller can flourish along side someone like that

Lakelandterrier wrote:
if there was an "investor" there would have been no need to sell Wyke... even if the release clause was triggered he could have been told we'll match their wages offer if you stay as the "investor" is coming in and you'll be playing in the Championship with us in a few years....

I'd say a 4/10 as at least we brought in Waring and Proctor so there clearly was a back up plan if Wyke left. Maybe either one or the other was already planned on coming in if he stayed.

Ellis McKee and Brisley were transfer listed so no surprise that McKee left by mutual consent and Ellis out on loan. Begs the question asked elsewhere why we even bothered to sign McKee and give Eliis a contract to 2018. Ditto re Penn.

If I play devils advocate we are OK in midfield if that is where Liddle was signed to play but short at the back.... but Curle clearly sees him as a centre half so in that case why let McKee go or no have another central midfielder signed up? Clearly we need a left back as Grainger's season looks as good as over.

The only positive is if we do by some miracle get promoted which I hope we do... then we have the spine of a good squad and Curle can attract League 1 level players to add to it if we went up.

7/10 - done well to ship out nearly all of the squad players who have barely contributed to a (so far) successful season and got most off the wage bill. Selling your top scorer mid season is never ideal but was inevitable once the release clause was made public, Wyke however is by no means irreplaceable and hopefully one of the two incoming loanees can step into his boots. Let's give them a chance before writing them off, what they've done previously is irrelevant in my eyes, they're both at a new club and you never know things might just click for them. What had Karl Hawley done before his arrival here? Was Kevin Gray not voted Tranmere's worst ever player before coming here? Did Wyke not have a similar goal scoring record to Proctor before his arrival?

O'Sullivan will hopefully give us a bit more balance, as right side hasn't really been filled properly all season. Even when Kennedy was playing there and playing well he wasn't giving us the balance as he spent most of the game inside, Miller has been a bit exposed at right back as a result.

Personally I don't think we needed another centre half as its obvious Curle sees Liddle as a defender as opposed to a midfielder, this therefore gives us four centre halfs to pick from so no need for another. Didn't Liddle play centre half for Curle at Notts Co? With Jones hopefully back in the next few weeks we've got more than enough options in centre mid aswell.

The real problem is obviously left back and I'm sure Curle hasn't ignored this, maybe a free agent to come in? Personally I'd give McQueen a run of games there and see how he does, 45 minutes to prove yourself after 6 months without a game was a bit harsh IMO.

bejustandfearprokas wrote:
Somebody of Waring's size should thrive on quality deliveries - step up Nicky Adams, and the new lad on the right flank.

At least we have options going forward, and plenty of creativity.

We're still in with a good shot, providing we stay clear of major injuries.

markredfox73 wrote:
What mark out of 10 would you give if we hadn't signed Liddle then?

Minus marra,minus

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Just going to sound silly but watching a couple video's of Waring he doesn't look 6ft 5. May just be because he isn't gangly and is fairly broad figure.

TheLazyLewisGuy wrote:
196cm, according to every source I can find.

He's a big lad. Stoke fans seem to rate him quite highly. I read that his contract is up this summer, in which case he will be looking to impress...

markredfox73 wrote:
How many times you seen Proctor, Waring and O'Sulivan play?

I'm happy 8 for Proctor fantastic signing for me

Did i read Proctor had scored 3 in 5 in his last youth games.

5 out 10.
positives, Proctor, Liddle, O`Sullivan, I feel will be good signings, Waring, could turn out ok.
I thought we might just hold on to Wyke, I don`t how hard the club tried to secure him until at least the end of the season, but it seemed a fairly feeble effort from the outside.
Again, don`t know how much work went in to trying to sigh a replacement for Grainger, but I`d have thought the LB position would`ve been a priority.
Wykes goals have earned us a good number of points so far this season and we`re probably looking to Shaun Miller to step into the goal scorers boots.
If Miller turns out to be the player he can be, the new lads turn out ok and if we can get Grainger and / or Jones back fairly quick, I`d still be confident. Lot of variables, ifs, buts and maybees.
As a footnote, I thought Brisley was a good signing at the start of the season, so what the flip do I know.

TheLazyLewisGuy wrote:
Just had to check before I corrected you, but it's the other way around - 5 in his last 3 for Stoke under-23's.

m.stokesentinel.co.uk/young-stoke-strike...89-detail/story.html

Edit: sorry, wrong player

Kangshung wrote:
Thanks. Glad you knew i meant Waring.

Thought it was poor 3 out of 10. Squad is too small to sustain a promotion push and if we suffer many more injuries or poor discipline on the pitch the season could fall away to nowt. Cannot believe we did not sign a lb. Not expecting much from Saturday hope I am wrong though.

franksidebottom wrote: No but im allowed my own opinion to rate arent I?

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markredfox73 wrote:
Of course you are, was just wondering how you have formed the opinion highlighted

Your 3rd in the league pushin for promotion and you sell your top scorer, [censored] unbelievable, Well know not really were talking Carlisle United here....