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08 Jun 2025 21:07 #51 by DreamboatUSA
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Laffy wrote: I'm as to see him go-always rated the guy and let's face it he like the boy with a finger in the dyke with some of our defensive displays


Laffy now offends the LBGT community. :-D


Sad to see the lad go, but LBGT rights are not really a laughing matter

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09 Jun 2025 12:37 #52 by nobbyblue
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melbourneblues wrote: Did you not read the interview nobby?


I did yes.

He's hardly gan to call Curle a w@nker at this present time. He might end up back at BP if nowt materialises.

I know he's a Geordie but he's not that daft!

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20 Jun 2025 18:00 - 20 Jun 2025 18:01 #53 by CCU
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Talk on Twitter that Walsall are possibly signing Gillespie...

www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wa...eper-in-coming-days/
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20 Jun 2025 21:57 #54 by munchymagic
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Walsall wouldn't be a bad move really though don't think that they pay the best but a division higher and didn't they almost get into The Championship a couple of seasons back.

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20 Jun 2025 22:06 - 20 Jun 2025 22:07 #55 by LakesBlue1
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munchymagic wrote: Walsall wouldn't be a bad move really though don't think that they pay the best but a division higher and didn't they almost get into The Championship a couple of seasons back.


Their side fell to bits after that, Lalkovic & Jordan Cook rejected new deals to drop down to League 2. Shows they pay poorly.
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20 Jun 2025 22:37 #56 by Dentonholmersimpson
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I for one won't miss him, nothing against the lad but think there are better out there.

The question is, why have we conceded so many goals over the last 3 or 4 seasons, despite him or because of him.

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23 Jun 2025 11:03 #57 by LakesBlue1
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CCU wrote: Talk on Twitter that Walsall are possibly signing Gillespie...

www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/wa...eper-in-coming-days/


Just been made official.

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23 Jun 2025 11:18 #58 by CCU
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23 Jun 2025 11:26 #59 by LakesBlue1
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What this guy doesn't know is a 10 yard pass to Michael Raynes counts as distribution.

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23 Jun 2025 11:29 #60 by LakesBlue1
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Can anyone guess the 7 penalty saves? Excludes penalty shootouts.

1. Wycombe H 2015-16.

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23 Jun 2025 11:34 - 23 Jun 2025 11:35 #61 by nobbyblue
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Dentonholmersimpson wrote: I for one won't miss him, nothing against the lad but think there are better out there.

The question is, why have we conceded so many goals over the last 3 or 4 seasons, despite him or because of him.


Aye I'm sure there will be a stream of top goalies queuing up to join us! :cheer:
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23 Jun 2025 11:58 - 23 Jun 2025 11:59 #62 by HuntingHorn
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I've been pretty critical of him with us.
I don't think he communicates nearly well enough and he makes some pretty bad blunders at times, BUT, with a good coach he could improve, communication is easy to iron out...the blunders less so but a good coach could help him along. That said, our defence didn't help him much either.

Looking at Walsall's squad list it appears he's the only keeper with league experience on their books...they couldn't have watched him much if they're putting all their stock in him as it stands!?
Interesting to see how it goes for him.
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23 Jun 2025 13:43 #63 by MerseysideBlue
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LakesBlue1 wrote: Can anyone guess the 7 penalty saves? Excludes penalty shootouts.

1. Wycombe H 2015-16.


Burton away, arguably his best ever performance for us.
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Good luck to him,he has played at this level enough so its a good signing for Walsall.

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23 Jun 2025 14:47 - 23 Jun 2025 15:04 #65 by LakesBlue1
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LakesBlue1 wrote: Can anyone guess the 7 penalty saves? Excludes penalty shootouts.

1. Wycombe H 2015-16.


Burton away, arguably his best ever performance for us.[/quote

3. Save one with his legs at Stevenage 2015/16.

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23 Jun 2025 14:57 #66 by cocaineblues
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That's Walsall going into my relegation bet at 3/1 then
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23 Jun 2025 15:15 #67 by Dancingbear
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HuntingHorn wrote: I've been pretty critical of him with us.
I don't think he communicates nearly well enough and he makes some pretty bad blunders at times, BUT, with a good coach he could improve, communication is easy to iron out...the blunders less so but a good coach could help him along. That said, our defence didn't help him much either.

Looking at Walsall's squad list it appears he's the only keeper with league experience on their books...they couldn't have watched him much if they're putting all their stock in him as it stands!?
Interesting to see how it goes for him.


Good luck to him but how do you know we havent got a good goalkeeper coach but communication hasnt been easy to iron out?
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23 Jun 2025 15:16 #68 by Wukkie
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Just waiting for Hanford to re-sign now and be our No.1.

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23 Jun 2025 15:40 #69 by CCU
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HuntingHorn wrote: I've been pretty critical of him with us.
I don't think he communicates nearly well enough and he makes some pretty bad blunders at times, BUT, with a good coach he could improve, communication is easy to iron out...the blunders less so but a good coach could help him along. That said, our defence didn't help him much either.

Looking at Walsall's squad list it appears he's the only keeper with league experience on their books...they couldn't have watched him much if they're putting all their stock in him as it stands!?
Interesting to see how it goes for him.


Good luck to him but how do you know we havent got a good goalkeeper coach but communication hasnt been easy to iron out?


He's too busy sorting out the Set Pieces...
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23 Jun 2025 17:58 #70 by triskelionblue
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Can't say he has much ambition to be leaving us for Walsall... there again there is the total lack of ambition of our illustrious board so that might explain it

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23 Jun 2025 18:07 #71 by CCU
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Aye fancy moving up a Division...
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23 Jun 2025 18:14 - 24 Jun 2025 17:47 #72 by HuntingHorn
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HuntingHorn wrote: I've been pretty critical of him with us.
I don't think he communicates nearly well enough and he makes some pretty bad blunders at times, BUT, with a good coach he could improve, communication is easy to iron out...the blunders less so but a good coach could help him along. That said, our defence didn't help him much either.

Looking at Walsall's squad list it appears he's the only keeper with league experience on their books...they couldn't have watched him much if they're putting all their stock in him as it stands!?
Interesting to see how it goes for him.


Good luck to him but how do you know we havent got a good goalkeeper coach but communication hasnt been easy to iron out?



I'd point to the fact he'd gone backwards with us and Tracey coaching him.
Obviously Tracey couldn't find a way to make him improve, maybe a different coach can? Not sure what the dig is here? Fact is with us he wasn't a great player.

As said, he might get better but Walsall, being a division above is a good move for the lad no doubt, only time will tell if it is for Walsall too won't it.
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23 Jun 2025 18:42 #73 by Swintonblue
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I bet he can't believe his luck moving up a division after the poor season he's just had. Probably on less money at Walsall I would think though.
All the best to him seems like a nice enough thing lad but decision making is atrocious, fine shot stopping (well, mostly) but anything he has to think about be it kicking, coming out of his box or coming off his line just never had any faith in him making the right choice.
Got an awful injury at what was probably a key time in his development and went backwards since then.

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23 Jun 2025 19:37 #74 by GingerBalls
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I think he's taken a leaf out of Adam Collin's book. Looked like he was going backwards, confidence shot, not feeling the love from the terrace...
Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 and no worse off.
I would have Collin back to be honest, is he not homesick?

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23 Jun 2025 19:39 #75 by Happyblue
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GingerBalls wrote: I think he's taken a leaf out of Adam Collin's book. Looked like he was going backwards, confidence shot, not feeling the love from the terrace...
Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 and no worse off.
I would have Collin back to be honest, is he not homesick?


Collin is at Notts county ,

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23 Jun 2025 19:50 - 23 Jun 2025 19:50 #76 by munchymagic
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GingerBalls wrote: I think he's taken a leaf out of Adam Collin's book. Looked like he was going backwards, confidence shot, not feeling the love from the terrace...
Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 and no worse off.
I would have Collin back to be honest, is he not homesick?


Collin is at Notts county ,


Collin has a fairly impressive CV, fell foul of Steve Evans and even got to play a few games for Aberdeen.

Didn't he go to Notts County when they were in the division above and were splashing the cash, probably on double the money he was on at Carlisle United.
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23 Jun 2025 19:53 #77 by Happyblue
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He joined in the 16/17 season,

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23 Jun 2025 19:55 #78 by munchymagic
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Happyblue wrote: He joined in the 16/17 season,


Bet he is on a decent whack still.

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24 Jun 2025 10:55 #79 by GingerBalls
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GingerBalls wrote: I think he's taken a leaf out of Adam Collin's book. Looked like he was going backwards, confidence shot, not feeling the love from the terrace...
Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 and no worse off.
I would have Collin back to be honest, is he not homesick?


Collin is at Notts county ,


I am well aware of that Happy

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24 Jun 2025 11:18 #80 by Happyblue
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Happyblue wrote:

GingerBalls wrote: I think he's taken a leaf out of Adam Collin's book. Looked like he was going backwards, confidence shot, not feeling the love from the terrace...
Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 and no worse off.
I would have Collin back to be honest, is he not homesick?


Collin is at Notts county ,


I am well aware of that Happy


Well in your post you didn't seem to realise

"Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 "
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Happyblue wrote:

GingerBalls wrote:

Happyblue wrote:

GingerBalls wrote: I think he's taken a leaf out of Adam Collin's book. Looked like he was going backwards, confidence shot, not feeling the love from the terrace...
Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 and no worse off.
I would have Collin back to be honest, is he not homesick?


Collin is at Notts county ,


I am well aware of that Happy


Well in your post you didn't seem to realise

"Collin kicked on when at Rotherham and is still a No1 "


I think the key letter is a
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27 Jun 2025 11:11 #82 by CCU
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27 Jun 2025 14:25 #83 by lbtufty
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In-depth interview and not a single word of praise or thanks given to Simon Tracey, just a bit of ass kissing for his successor. Almost comes across like a bit of a dig.

"The goalkeeping coach [Neil Cutler] is very highly thought-of down there and across the country. That was a factor as well, to work with someone different and get some new ideas to try and progress my game."
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27 Jun 2025 15:11 #84 by Wukkie
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He's almost admitting himself that he's stood still in terms of progression since Simon Tracey came in and that the rumours that there is someone high up inside the club isn't a fan of the manager as Curle alluded too in his interview after the Exeter game.

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30 Jun 2025 12:36 #85 by HuntingHorn
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It doesn't come as a surprise really that interview.

He is backing up pretty much what we've all seen, that he just wasn't progressing under Tracey.
It says a bit about Tracey that with his coaching Gillespie at his lowest ebb was still considered better than Crocombe too...what's he doing here if he's not capable of preparing two first team capable keepers?

I doubt Gillespie will ever set the championship alight or transfer anywhere higher than L1 & L2 but you never know.
I do know that with us he had several flaws that we couldn't keep if we're going to try to progress....that said, our current keeper is great isn't he :unsure:

The joys of bargain bucket football eh....
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30 Jun 2025 15:04 #86 by howoldboy
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To be fair to ST we don't know if Gillespie or Crocombe would have improved under any goalkeeping coach.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
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howoldboy wrote: To be fair to ST we don't know if Gillespie or Crocombe would have improved under any goalkeeping coach.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.


Nobody knows. Tracey getting a lot of unfair criticism.
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howoldboy wrote: To be fair to ST we don't know if Gillespie or Crocombe would have improved under any goalkeeping coach.

You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.


Nobody knows. Tracey getting a lot of unfair criticism.


Totally agree. Outfield coaches never face the same criticism.
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30 Jun 2025 17:32 - 30 Jun 2025 17:35 #89 by Happyblue
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Gillespie has regressed that could be down to poor coaching or lack of confidence after his injuries , it could be both.
As for critising the outfield coaches we could do the same really, as much as I like curle, hes been awful with young players such as although Symington, beck and brough were not world beaters they did regress under the current management .
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30 Jun 2025 17:37 #90 by Mush
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He's a good shot stopper at times, can't kick and doesn't command his area.

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30 Jun 2025 17:49 #91 by Happyblue
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Think the command of area is a problem in the game as a whole, people can't really compare keepers of 30+ years ago as the balls are completely different , they move so much faster are less predictable than then.
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30 Jun 2025 18:21 #92 by pie
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Tracey is getting paid a wage to do a job, which is to improve the quality and performances of our goalkeepers. In all the time he's been here, not only has that not happened, they've probably got worse.

Nothing unfair about criticizing somebody who can't do their job.

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pie wrote: Tracey is getting paid a wage to do a job, which is to improve the quality and performances of our goalkeepers. In all the time he's been here, not only has that not happened, they've probably got worse.

Nothing unfair about criticizing somebody who can't do their job.


What if the goalkeeper has peaked at the club for whatever reason? That isn't the coaches fault.
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30 Jun 2025 18:45 #94 by The Archer
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pie wrote: Tracey is getting paid a wage to do a job, which is to improve the quality and performances of our goalkeepers. In all the time he's been here, not only has that not happened, they've probably got worse.

Nothing unfair about criticizing somebody who can't do their job.


What if the goalkeeper has peaked at the club for whatever reason? That isn't the coaches fault.


'Peaked'?! I hope for Gillespie's sake he hasn't, he'll be non league before he knows it if it's all downhill from here!

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30 Jun 2025 18:46 #95 by seesaw50
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Mark used to shout a lot at his defenders but over time he seemed to stop doing it...wonder why

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30 Jun 2025 18:47 #96 by Happyblue
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Gillespie , will do well at Walsall I have no doubt. Carlisle fans will continue to be dulleded by the expected quality of league 2 goal keepers.

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Happyblue wrote: Gillespie , will do well at Walsall I have no doubt. Carlisle fans will continue to be dulleded by the expected quality of league 2 goal keepers.


We've been very fortunate over the years. Not many lower league teams will have had keepers as good as Westwood Krul Amos and possibly even Pickford. Now people think every keeper we get should be as good as those and if they aren't it's the coaches fault.
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30 Jun 2025 18:53 #98 by munchymagic
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I would say that bettering yourself is no bad thing.

New challenge for him with better defenders in front of him but also better strikers.

Don't think he was 'feeling the love' at Carlisle United.
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30 Jun 2025 18:55 #99 by Happyblue
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Dancingbear wrote:

Happyblue wrote: Gillespie , will do well at Walsall I have no doubt. Carlisle fans will continue to be dulleded by the expected quality of league 2 goal keepers.


We've been very fortunate over the years. Not many lower league teams will have had keepers as good as Westwood Krul Amos and possibly even Pickford. Now people think every keeper we get should be as good as those and if they aren't it's the coaches fault.


I can even remember numerous people saying Pickford wouldn't go very far as well. If Adam Collin was good enough for Rotherham when they went up then gillespie certainly is good enough for league 1

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30 Jun 2025 19:00 #100 by pie
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Dancingbear wrote:

pie wrote: Tracey is getting paid a wage to do a job, which is to improve the quality and performances of our goalkeepers. In all the time he's been here, not only has that not happened, they've probably got worse.

Nothing unfair about criticizing somebody who can't do their job.


What if the goalkeeper has peaked at the club for whatever reason? That isn't the coaches fault.


Yep I guess it could happen but I don't see any of our goalkeepers improving under Tracey and it would be a coincidence that all of them (all relatively young) have peaked?

I just don't see him adding much value (may well be wrong, I got knocked out in the qualifying round of the Know-it-all Cup, admittedly by Northernsoul B-team who was allowed to enter this year)
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