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  Friday, 29 July 2022
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Sounds like we’ll be missing one or two first choice players tomorrow….

“It will be very clear on Saturday afternoon when the 18 are selected who they are. I’m not going to make Crawley’s match preparation easier by saying who it is.”

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/20586278.carlisle-united-managers-message-dad-to-be-omari-patrick-ahead-first-game-season/
2 months ago
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#313527
Feeney and Guy is my guess.
2 months ago
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#313528
Although injuries can't be helped you can only imagine that certain players who are rarely injured , one obvious example springs to mind, must be a dream to manage and therefore far more popular with the manager , than they are with the fans.
2 months ago
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#313530
How in the modern game are there so many injuries when there’s all this sports science physio etc etc…

In our pre Div 1 Div 2 days it was the same 11 week in week out… even the one Div 1 season the same… and in those days only 1 sub if any (can’t remember when having a sub started)

If I recall in the Div 1 season we had a squad of 16 tops

So why when players don’t even have to be fit enough to play the full 90 minutes are there so many injuries nowadays?
2 months ago
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#313532
This is where the game is a bit broken, at lower league level.
A footballer who has a 1 or 2 year deal, compared to an employed person in the real world, seems to have pretty good protection really.
If you get injured due to a bad tackle in a match or summat, most people would think, fair enough that's an 'industrial injury', but just general lack of fitness seems less acceptable.
If you started a new job and you were off sick all the time, you would be given the chop.
Likewise , if you are self-employed, if you are sick, you don't earn.
Seems a bit too cushy, I feel
I wonder if within the game , there is resentment amongst team mates about players that are a bit flaky, similarly to the office worker that is always swinging the lead?
2 months ago
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#313534
I think it is because of sports science some players can have a career in football whereas if they played 40 years ago they'd have been written off or just not made it. Some players such as Nathan Thomas put their bodies through enormous stresses when playing so it is not surprising they have a poor injury record. My cousin played in Division 1 40 years ago and ankle injuries ruined his career. Thanks to ultrasound, minor sprains can be picked up quickly these days and treated before they become career threatening.
2 months ago
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#313535
I'm presuming a few won't play once they feel a niggle where as years ago folk would play through the pain barrier more.
2 months ago
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#313536
Injuries are not more common now, they are in fact becoming less frequent. Studies have shown that with the introduction of sports science and proper physios (not the old magic sponge) they’ve actually decreased year on year for the past 18 years and players in general are more available now than ever before. https://bjsm.bmj.com/content/55/19/1084 (just one example)

You also have to take into consideration the game is now much much faster and more explosive than it was in the past. High intensity sprints have increased 50% in the past decade alone. Higher force = higher chance of occurance and severity of injuries. Plus players have to train at that level to get to that level. AND they play more games per season. Despite all this, injuries are decreasing.

Whilst you always will get the odd player that will ‘cry off’ I’d like to think this is very few and far between and normally when angling for a move away etc.

Carwash also makes an excellent point that players can continue to play through various long term injuries now due to advanced treatments that would have ended their careers 20/30 years ago.
2 months ago
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#313537
It’s Patrick and Edmondson.
2 months ago
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#313538
It’s Patrick and Edmondson.


Simmo confirmed it wasn’t Edmondson in the same interview.
2 months ago
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#313541
Patrick suffered with injury a few seasons ago that took a while to recover he missed the beginning of the season then, maybe it’s the same problem.
Just underlines that we need more cover up front.
2 months ago
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#313542
Isnt Patrick a doubt cos his baby’s due date is today, rather than any injury?
2 months ago
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#313593
Bit of a concern losing Silva and Dickinson for what sounds like a while. Leaves us really short up front.
2 months ago
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#313620
As briefly alluded to in the Match Thread:

Sho-Silva has a 14cm Hamstring Tear and likely out for about 8 weeks.

Dickenson returned to Training only to have his Knee opened, been for a Scan today, will likely be ‘a few weeks’.

Devitt signed Thurs, reported ill Fri so has stayed away for obvious reasons.
2 months ago
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#314053
More updates:

1 month ago
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#314350
Getting daft now! :(

1 month ago
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#314352
Barclay and Harris are the players with injuries now. Feeney seeing a consultant but Simpson confirming in the interview that there's damage. Edmondson has had a scan but no result yet. Huntington not fit enough to play any part at the weekend. We're going to look pretty depleted...
1 month ago
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#314354
Getting a bit of a joke now.. how many players is that?

Senior
Charters
Dickenson
Feeney
Edmondson
*Barclay
*Harris
1 month ago
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#314355
Sho-Silva and Dixon as well. So that's 9 senior pros.
1 month ago
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#314356
There are injuries every year, it’s almost a given that some squad members will miss most of the season.

However, perhaps slightly exacerbated this year by a tough pre-season regime coupled with firmer pitches because of the hot weather?
1 month ago
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#314357
The first half dozen supporters through the gate on Saturday are in the squad.
1 month ago
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#314358
There’s something sadly wrong. To get half of the squad injured after 3 competitive games can’t be just coincidence. Something needs to be looked at whether it’s the training or the strength and conditioning or the players. I don’t know, but something is going wrong.

It seems for every 1 game we play we lose 3 players. We’ll be down to the youth team in a couple of weeks the way it’s going.
1 month ago
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#314359
If you add Dixon that's 10
1 month ago
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#314362
I am beginning to think too much emphasis is being put on scans to establish that there's been some damage without thinking through what the treatment will be. Edmo has a niggle round his hip and Feeney is experiencing heel pain. To quote Simmo, "We can see what the damage is but don't know exactly what the right way to treat it."

I've had heel pain before (having flat feet) and have had other issues with joints. My solution is to see a good osteopath who will know instantly what to do to manipulate the tendons and muscles to relieve the pain. The results are amazing. Footballers put their bodies through enormous stresses which inevitably results in tears and sprains of muscles and joint problems. I would have a very experienced osteopath on the team to add his knowledge (most of them are men) and healing skills.
1 month ago
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#314371
I am beginning to think too much emphasis is being put on scans to establish that there's been some damage without thinking through what the treatment will be. Edmo has a niggle round his hip and Feeney is experiencing heel pain. To quote Simmo, "We can see what the damage is but don't know exactly what the right way to treat it."

I've had heel pain before (having flat feet) and have had other issues with joints. My solution is to see a good osteopath who will know instantly what to do to manipulate the tendons and muscles to relieve the pain. The results are amazing. Footballers put their bodies through enormous stresses which inevitably results in tears and sprains of muscles and joint problems. I would have a very experienced osteopath on the team to add his knowledge (most of them are men) and healing skills.


I had a bad back for years after slipping on a wet floor. I was X-rayed, but the doctors could see no damage. In the end someone recommended an osteopath in Hawick, who found the source of the problem within ten minutes and resolved it within twenty. I've never had a problem since. It was the best £20 I've ever spent.

The walls of his treatment room was covered with signed photos of Scottish rugby internationals who had been treated by him, so it seems that within the rugby fraternity at least, osteopaths are, or were regarded as a valuable resource to treating injuries.

As an aside he told me that the best way to avoid knee, ankle and back problems was to stay slim. It would be interesting to know whether amongst footballers the 'bigger units' are more prone to injury than the 'skinny winger' type of player, although obviously any player can be injured in a tackle etc.
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