CUFC SQUAD 17/18 THREAD

FGR have just signed Lee Collins (Centre-Back) from Mansfield which isn't exactly a vote of confidence unless they're planning on taking Ellis too .

Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Signed Ellis as he had experience of Promotion from this Division. Ditched him when we were up at the top and then we started slipping. Meanwhile Ellis goes on Loan and helps his new side get Promotion. One of the most shocking decisions of Curle's reign IMO...

CCU wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Signed Ellis as he had experience of Promotion from this Division. Ditched him when we were up at the top and then we started slipping. Meanwhile Ellis goes on Loan and helps his new side get Promotion. One of the most shocking decisions of Curle's reign IMO...

It's not as if Ellis played a major part in us getting up to the top. He was (rightly) not being picked regularly in our back 4 during the first half of the season. Him going had nothing to do with our slide out of the automatic places just as him being here had nothing to do with us getting into the automatic places in the first place.

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Aye I'm sure all of our squad were looking on in envy wishing they were playing in the conference playoffs.

crunchblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Aye I'm sure all of our squad were looking on in envy wishing they were playing in the conference playoffs.

To be honest I would want to be playing in the winning one.

munchymagic wrote:

crunchblue wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Aye I'm sure all of our squad were looking on in envy wishing they were playing in the conference playoffs.

To be honest I would want to be playing in the winning one.

Each to their own.

crunchblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Signed Ellis as he had experience of Promotion from this Division. Ditched him when we were up at the top and then we started slipping. Meanwhile Ellis goes on Loan and helps his new side get Promotion. One of the most shocking decisions of Curle's reign IMO...

It's not as if Ellis played a major part in us getting up to the top. He was (rightly) not being picked regularly in our back 4 during the first half of the season. Him going had nothing to do with our slide out of the automatic places just as him being here had nothing to do with us getting into the automatic places in the first place.

It's more than just being in the starting XI though? His experience should've been invaluable in training, in the dressing room etc...

I'd rather Ellis play at CB than Liddle. He's been nothing short of below average for me. He either needs to play CM or not at all.

CCU wrote:

crunchblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Signed Ellis as he had experience of Promotion from this Division. Ditched him when we were up at the top and then we started slipping. Meanwhile Ellis goes on Loan and helps his new side get Promotion. One of the most shocking decisions of Curle's reign IMO...

It's not as if Ellis played a major part in us getting up to the top. He was (rightly) not being picked regularly in our back 4 during the first half of the season. Him going had nothing to do with our slide out of the automatic places just as him being here had nothing to do with us getting into the automatic places in the first place.

It's more than just being in the starting XI though? His experience should've been invaluable in training, in the dressing room etc...

We can look at losing Jones, Grainger and Kennedy through injuries as factors in why we dropped from the top. The sale of Wyke as well. All key first team players, way more so than Ellis.

As for experience, that's one thing this squad has in abundance so I doubt losing Ellis would have made much difference in that respect either.

Yeah I'm not a fan of Ellis if you couldn't tell already

crunchblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Signed Ellis as he had experience of Promotion from this Division. Ditched him when we were up at the top and then we started slipping. Meanwhile Ellis goes on Loan and helps his new side get Promotion. One of the most shocking decisions of Curle's reign IMO...

It's not as if Ellis played a major part in us getting up to the top. He was (rightly) not being picked regularly in our back 4 during the first half of the season. Him going had nothing to do with our slide out of the automatic places just as him being here had nothing to do with us getting into the automatic places in the first place.

Well you can be sure that the money spent on his wage would have represented better value than that paid to any of the non entities we signed since Wyke left

crunchblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

crunchblue wrote:

CCU wrote:

munchymagic wrote: Ellis had the last laugh however as he was the only Carlisle United player to win a promotion this season.

Bet that pissed Keith off, or maybe not as Ellis will be easier to move on now having just won something.

Signed Ellis as he had experience of Promotion from this Division. Ditched him when we were up at the top and then we started slipping. Meanwhile Ellis goes on Loan and helps his new side get Promotion. One of the most shocking decisions of Curle's reign IMO...

It's not as if Ellis played a major part in us getting up to the top. He was (rightly) not being picked regularly in our back 4 during the first half of the season. Him going had nothing to do with our slide out of the automatic places just as him being here had nothing to do with us getting into the automatic places in the first place.

It's more than just being in the starting XI though? His experience should've been invaluable in training, in the dressing room etc...

We can look at losing Jones, Grainger and Kennedy through injuries as factors in why we dropped from the top. The sale of Wyke as well. All key first team players, way more so than Ellis.

As for experience, that's one thing this squad has in abundance so I doubt losing Ellis would have made much difference in that respect either.

Yeah I'm not a fan of Ellis if you couldn't tell already

Keith obviously isn't a fan either, cannot see him coming back to be honest but will probably be up there on the amount of clubs who want him over the other players that we make available for transfer.

Then again Keith might be on the naughty step soon so maybe the next manager might fancy him.

Gillespie is off if he can get fixed up elsewhere. Not keen on Keith apparently.

I thought that when Potts had his trial with Blackpool Gillespie went as well but wasn't offered a contract. Lets see if anyone else wants him

He may get released anyway. His contracts up after this season.

Not sure if he's been offered a new one or not.

carlisleunited wrote: He may get released anyway. His contracts up after this season.

Not sure if he's been offered a new one or not.

He was offered a new one along with four more but its not clear wether they were withdrawn or what happened of the 5 only Grainger resigned his

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

carlisleunited wrote: He may get released anyway. His contracts up after this season.

Not sure if he's been offered a new one or not.

He was offered a new one along with four more but its not clear wether they were withdrawn or what happened of the 5 only Grainger resigned his

The 5 were

Grainger
Gillespie
Ibrehe
Kennedy
Raynes

Contary to popular opinion by the time those contracts were offered Joyce had automatically triggered a 1 yr extension so therefore wasnt one of the five

*UPDATED*

Squad as of 22nd May 2017:

Signed:
T.Miller
Grainger
Brisley
Ellis
Liddle
Joyce
Jones
Adams
Devitt
Lambe
O'Sullivan
S.Miller

Development Contract:
Bacon
Egan
Holt
Salkeld

Offered Deal:
Gillespie
Raynes
Kennedy
Bailey
Ibehre
Nabi

That's 12 signed, 4 'Development' players and 6 offered at present.

The core squad looks pretty decent.

Squad in Positions - Offered in Italics:

GOALKEEPER:
Gillespie

FULL BACK:
T.Miller
Grainger

CENTRE BACK:
Brisley
Ellis
Raynes

UTILITY:
Liddle

CENTRE MID:
Bailey
Joyce
Jones
Kennedy

ATTACK MID:
Devitt
Nabi

WIDE PLAYERS:
Adams
Lambe
O'Sullivan

STRIKERS:
Ibehre
S.Miller

Haven't put the four 1st Year Pro's in yet...

Well if the 6 were to all re.sign we wouldnt be looking for many new signings as that would give us 18 a new keeper would make that 19 so in that case we,d only be looking at a maximum of 3

Are we still not sure what Liddle's actual position is?

Ellis and Brisley are on the transfer list I thought so a reasonable chance they will be off. That clears off 2 centre backs. Brisley is on a decent wack I would guess, he was offered a deal at Peterborough but chose to come north. Ellis signed a 3 year deal after leaving a club in the division above so I would imagine he is doing ok as well. Just hope we don't have to fund a chunk of their wages to get them to go. If Morecambe are keen that would be an outlet.

Thought as well Raynes was off to Manchester to top off his degree and Kennedy was heading for Kilmarnock? Out of that bunch Kennedy would be the biggest loss if he can stay fit, lets just hope any replacements are better

No mention of anyone on any Transfer List on Curle's article this morning, just that those under contract have a new challenge etc...

Updated 1st June:

Squad in Positions - Offered in Italics:

GOALKEEPER:
Gillespie

FULL BACK:
T.Miller
Grainger

CENTRE BACK:
Brisley
Ellis

UTILITY:
Liddle

CENTRE MID:
Bailey
Joyce
Jones
Kennedy

ATTACK MID:
Devitt
Nabi

WIDE PLAYERS:
Adams
Lambe
O'Sullivan

STRIKERS:
S.Miller

Haven't put the four 1st Year Pro's in yet...

It could be worse - Kavanagh thought that this lot would fire us to promotion

1Gillespie
19Symington
2GraingerSubstituted forElliottat 45'minutes
23O'Hanlon
15Meppen-Walter
3Robson
4Marrow
16Potts
10Dicker
9Paynter
7AmooSubstituted forKearnsat 76'

That team is only out done by the side Abbott assembled for our first away game at Bradford in 2012/13

LakesBlue1 wrote: That team is only out done by the side Abbott assembled for our first away game at Bradford in 2012/13

CARLISLE: Gillespie, Potts, Thirlwell, Livesey, Brough (Black 70), Amoo, Noble (Lynch 60), Berrett, Gillies (Feely 36), Beck, Guy. Subs (not used): Edwards, Symington, Fleming, Salmon.

Not much in it like but you are probably right, Abbott must have been off his tits to think that lot were good enough for League 2 let alone League 1.

As I mentioned in the worst defender thread, that team that Abbott assembled at the start of that season (13/14) is the worst I've seen.

The Bradford game is mentioned above and yeah that could have been 9 or 10 as well, and the Leyton Orient game before that was bad, but the Coventry home game will take some beating. Only a man of the match performance from Gillespie stopped it from being double figures.

Sounds about right.

LakesBlue1 wrote:

Sounds about right.

I've mentioned on here before, bloke I know lived next door to Marrow in Bromley, reckons he needed a revolving door he was in and out with his mates that much...

Yes, odd bloke by reading his wiki page and this old gem -

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/artic...without-pay-off.html

munchymagic wrote: Yes, odd bloke by reading his wiki page and this old gem -

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/artic...without-pay-off.html

A KC classic

Meanwhile, winger Danny Kearns - who has been absent from the club to 'refocus his mind' - was also the subject of some straight talking from Curle.

An embarrassing year we should erase from the history of the club.

Reading this thread makes you realise what a total f*** up Kavanagh and Abbott (his last few transfer windows) made of our squad.

I wonder what Gregs budget was that season as that side looks like, even then, a Conference side could afford to cobble together.

Beck and Guy as a two pronged attacking weapon ffs.

Kavanagh takes a lot of the blame for us being so much in debt with the crap that he brought in, just because Jenkins was too tight to get a real manager in he paid the price - I say paid the price but he still holds the debt caused by his own stupidity around the clubs neck.

I reckon that once Greg won The Johnstones Paint Trophy Jenkins thought that he had found the new lower league Fergie and would be here for at least the next ten years, someone he was comfortable dealing with, no hassle - happy days.

Wouldn't mind if Jenkins just took it on the chin and swallowed the debt but the cheeky get wants his Kavanagh mess up cash back.

Club happy with Gillespie/Bailey...

www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-utd/lates...acc8-604029d5c44f-ds

Tell them to sign or do one! This happens every season.

CCU wrote: Club happy with Gillespie/Bailey...

www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-utd/lates...acc8-604029d5c44f-ds

Ridiculous not to give players a deadline, Are they going to string the club along until the end of the month where they stop getting paid before making a decision.

Neither a good enough for the first 11, I'd just get rid.

LakesBlue1 wrote:

CCU wrote: Club happy with Gillespie/Bailey...

www.newsandstar.co.uk/carlisle-utd/lates...acc8-604029d5c44f-ds

Ridiculous not to give players a deadline, Are they going to string the club along until the end of the month where they stop getting paid before making a decision.

Neither a good enough for the first 11, I'd just get rid.

I agree if they are not committed enough to sign then I would just get rid especially Bailey... at least Raynes and Jabo moved on and didn't mess about

Out of the 2 I hope Bailey signs.

Bailey isn't all that - 'considering' a deal, the cheeky get?!

The club can not a retract a contract within a certain period , if you read the interview on the official page it's tells you that so they still have time to weigh up option before the club can retract them.

Updated 7th June:

Squad in Positions - Offered in Italics:

GOALKEEPER:

FULL BACK:
T.Miller
Grainger

CENTRE BACK:
Brisley
Ellis

UTILITY:
Liddle

CENTRE MID:
Bailey
Joyce
Jones
Kennedy

ATTACK MID:
Devitt
Nabi

WIDE PLAYERS:
Adams
Lambe
O'Sullivan

STRIKERS:
S.Miller

Haven't put the four 1st Year Pro's in yet...

Does this mean we are going to play rush goalie/drop back keeper? Or whatever it is called

CCU wrote: Updated 7th June:

Squad in Positions - Offered in Italics:

GOALKEEPER:

FULL BACK:
T.Miller
Grainger

CENTRE BACK:
Brisley
Ellis

UTILITY:
Liddle

CENTRE MID:
Bailey
Joyce
Jones
Kennedy

ATTACK MID:
Devitt
Nabi

WIDE PLAYERS:
Adams
Lambe
O'Sullivan

STRIKERS:
S.Miller

Haven't put the four 1st Year Pro's in yet...

We've got a keeper, Morgan Bacon.

Mush wrote: Tell them to sign or do one! This happens every season.

Gillespie has indeed done one....:

Mush wrote: We've got a keeper, Morgan Bacon.

Yes, but as it says, the first year Pro's haven't been added, and probably unfair to at this stage...

pigeonpete wrote: Does this mean we are going to play rush goalie/drop back keeper? Or whatever it is called

We'd probably improve our defensive record if did so.

Updated 9th June:

Squad in Positions - All offers concluded and updated.

GOALKEEPER:

FULL BACK:
T.Miller
Grainger

CENTRE BACK:
Brisley
Ellis

UTILITY:
Liddle

CENTRE MID:
Joyce
Jones
Kennedy

ATTACK MID:
Devitt
Nabi

WIDE PLAYERS:
Adams
Lambe
O'Sullivan

STRIKERS:
S.Miller

Haven't put the four 1st Year Pro's in yet...

We want a squad of 23/24 seemingly. Would assume that includes the 4 young lads?