Season Tickets 2017/18

Info: www.carlisleunited.co.uk/news/article/20...-season-3669159.aspx

First impressions - Why so bloody complex?!

Also, can't see folk with Seated Season Tickets being happy that Terracing may save 'more' based on sales? Terracing deal seems decent...

there's nowt like making things simple.

and this is nowt like it.

At least they are trying something. If they do get 1000 terracing then £209 for 23 games is good value. Just over £9 a game.

People complain when they keep things the same and don't try something new, then when they do try something new people complain that it's too complicated.

I think it's a great idea. It will hopefully encourage more people to buy season tickets. I think 1000 terracing ST's is definitely doable. £209 for a season ticket would be a very good deal.

Buy a spare one (making the 1k more likely) and sell it every week for £12.

Why not just say let's aim for 3000 at £299 Seated/£199 Terracing?

Simple, targeted, achievable...

What's complex about this? Pretty straight forward to me, and some good savings to be made there. As Blues86 said, over 1,000 sales and you're looking at just over £9 a game for terracing. That's an excellent deal.

Agree that the seated season ticket offer isn't as good as the terracing, but the savings to be made are still decent.

Massive praise for reducing the cost of Junior/Young Persons season tickets, that's one thing in particular that I was hoping for. I always felt that going from 11 to 12 was too big a step.

First impressions what a load of shite.

CCU wrote: Why not just say let's aim for 3000 at £299 Seated/£199 Terracing?

Simple, targeted, achievable...

What if they didn't get the 3,000? Then how much would it be? The sliding scale is an excellent idea, one adopted by a couple of clubs ahead of next season.

Damned if they do. Damned if they don't. 209 for standing if 1000 tickets are sold is simple enough for even steve pat to understand. Well done the club for this offer

cufcdeano wrote:

CCU wrote: Why not just say let's aim for 3000 at £299 Seated/£199 Terracing?

Simple, targeted, achievable...

What if they didn't get the 3,000? Then how much would it be? The sliding scale is an excellent idea, one adopted by a couple of clubs ahead of next season.

Honestly cant see why terracing should be different to seating. Surely its the total number that matters plus youd think theyd want more people to sit rather than stand anyway as it costs more. I also think everyone should be eligible for the lowest price. That would prob have persuaded me to buy 2 seats even though i usually only get to just over half the home games nowadays

Does seem a little strange DB.

For terracing, everybody is entitled to the lowest price.

Not sure why it's not the same for seated, but there's still an option of an extra game saving (£19 adult for example) on top of the £362 early buy or £324 renewal prices.

Just over £9 to stand, or £13/£15 to sit depending on whether you're a ST holder currently or not. They're not bad prices for this level. As you say, shame the lowest seated offer isn't available to all supporters, but still an improvement on last season.

The club are trying something new to try and increase attendances / season ticket holders, and bring in more younger supporters. The latter itself is of huge importance imo.

cufcdeano wrote: Does seem a little strange DB.

For terracing, everybody is entitled to the lowest price.

Not sure why it's not the same for seated, but there's still an option of an extra game saving (£19 adult for example) on top of the £362 early buy or £324 renewal prices.

Just over £9 to stand, or £13/£15 to sit depending on whether you're a ST holder currently or not. They're not bad prices for this level. As you say, shame the lowest seated offer isn't available to all supporters, but still an improvement on last season.

The club are trying something new to try and increase attendances / season ticket holders, and bring in more younger supporters. The latter itself is of huge importance imo.

I agree on the younger fans pricing, very reasonable. Another thing to consider is IF we get to the play off final are people gonna be able to pay for a weekend in London plus buy a season ticket. Best thing to happen would be the EWM to announce theyd taken full control. I just cant see this creating enough of a upsurge by the 26th may deadline. Yet another missed opportunity to me but possibly great if you stand.

As a side note, looks like the Virgin Trains discount has finished?

Cant help but think this has something to do with phillip day coming in.

Dancingbear wrote: Another thing to consider is IF we get to the play off final are people gonna be able to pay for a weekend in London plus buy a season ticket.

Pay by direct debit, spread the cost over 10 months.

Heres the Rochdale one its supposedly loosely based it on. A whole extra month to buy your ticket for a start and a lot more simple

www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/tickets/season-tickets/

I reckon if we had done 4k for £110 we would have done it.

Dancingbear wrote: Heres the Rochdale one its supposedly loosely based it on. A whole extra month to buy your ticket for a start and a lot more simple

www.rochdaleafc.co.uk/tickets/season-tickets/

Is it much more simpler? Different prices for standing/seated, same as CUFC. Same prices as this season is they don't achieve their 2,000 target. Hell, if they don't reach their target, the page doesn't even tell you how much you're going to pay....now that is simple.

Also loosely based on Bradford City's....wouldn't say that's much simpler either. Better pricing, mind they are selling 20,000.
www.bradfordcityfc.co.uk/news/article/20...-twenty-3601915.aspx

LakesBlue1 wrote: I reckon if we had done 4k for £110 we would have done it.

Agreed - and we'd have massively reduced our ticket sales income, reducing our budget and folk would twine that nothing was being invested in the squad.

With any decision like this where you're getting opinions of many thousand different supporters, you're never going to please everybody. Don't think there'll be anybody who thinks this deals are worse than last season though. Or is there...?

Good to see the club trying something new, people have asked for it and to be fair to them they have tried something. Even at the highest early bird/renewal price £12 a game isn't bad.

As you can pay by direct debit why would anybody leave it to buy their tickets at the standard pricing ?

Anybody who finds these things complex/hard to understand shouldn't really be allowed to go the game unaccompanied.

Wonder who the local businesses are that are offering discounts ? If it's places people will use again it could boost the savings even more.

cufcdeano wrote:

LakesBlue1 wrote: I reckon if we had done 4k for £110 we would have done it.

Agreed - and we'd have massively reduced our ticket sales income, reducing our budget and folk would twine that nothing was being invested in the squad.

With any decision like this where you're getting opinions of many thousand different supporters, you're never going to please everybody. Don't think there'll be anybody who thinks this deals are worse than last season though. Or is there...?

You didnt compile ours did you Deano you sound very defensive

Haha not at all. Just don't think you can have it both ways - fans want cheaper ticket prices, but more money invested in the football club. Salary Cost Management Protocol which restricts our spending to 50% (from next season) makes it hard to do that without an owner that's going to stick a hefty sum in as a 'football fortune' which is excluded from that 50%.

Jenkins is a strange Cuckoo, it is like he has a decent car but cannot afford to put any petrol into it.

As he sold one of the wheels to pay for a little bit of petrol lets hope that he has a spare wheel....

cufcdeano wrote: Haha not at all. Just don't think you can have it both ways - fans want cheaper ticket prices, but more money invested in the football club. Salary Cost Management Protocol which restricts our spending to 50% (from next season) makes it hard to do that without an owner that's going to stick a hefty sum in as a 'football fortune' which is excluded from that 50%.

Exactly so why try to persuade fans to buy cheaper standing tickets. Just think if all season tickets sold were for the paddock and warwick theyd lose a bloody fortune.

I think this is quite a clever scheme that Clibbens has designed.

I think it is targeted partly at exiles like myself who have no intention of going to Brunton Park yet want of do our bit and also gain some priority should we get an attractive cup tie. For £209 upfront for an early bird terracing ST we can also do our bit to help the other fans get the maximum saving. It almost follows on from the crowdfunding idea where the fans working together achieved something worthwhile and what a few people like me did for the Barnet home game by buying extra tickets for invisible friends.

I'll be buying a ST for the first time later this week.

Of our 1500 or so ST holders, I wonder how many are seats and how many are standing. All my family are seated.
I'd guess 1200+ seats and the rest standing.
I won't save much but I applaud the new ideas to get more in. Our ST numbers are appalling.

Well done the club, people have asked for a different pricing model and they have delivered. For the first time in over 30 years of watching Utd, and thanks to the the agreement of The Long Haired Gemeral at home I'll be getting a ST, my only dilemma is whether or not to go for the Paddock or the Warwick.

How do these prices compare to £199 for an adult at Huddersfield for next season (could be in the Premiershit or 23 home games in the championship)?

Seems that club have gone from strength to strength over the last 12-18 months (since the f_cked Clibbens off)?

As much as it pains me I agree with Mike in that it seems reasonable. We can't have it both ways extremely cheap tickets and a good side as we have no other income and will mean even more debt.

We've got very minimal, in this day and age is criminal, income from elsewhere!

bruntonpete wrote: Of our 1500 or so ST holders, I wonder how many are seats and how many are standing. All my family are seated.
I'd guess 1200+ seats and the rest standing.
I won't save much but I applaud the new ideas to get more in. Our ST numbers are appalling.

What makes you think there are so many seated? I'd guess half and half but may be wrong.

Slightly over complicated, but credit where it's due - at least they're trying something.

I"d be snapping a couple up, but not whilst the three remain entrenched.

Also, if there was going to be a takeover surely this would be the time to announce it? Such news would really give ST sales a boost.

If the horsemen fk off soon i would deffo get one like...but alas home boycotting will continue.


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carwash wrote: I think this is quite a clever scheme that Clibbens has designed.

I think it is targeted partly at exiles like myself who have no intention of going to Brunton Park yet want of do our bit and also gain some priority should we get an attractive cup tie. For £209 upfront for an early bird terracing ST we can also do our bit to help the other fans get the maximum saving. It almost follows on from the crowdfunding idea where the fans working together achieved something worthwhile and what a few people like me did for the Barnet home game by buying extra tickets for invisible friends.

I'll be buying a ST for the first time later this week.

Just said exactly the same thing. I can't go to all the games due to work commitments so wouldn't be worth me paying for a season ticket usually but if it comes down to £209/225 I would buy one as a way of supporting and putting money into the club.
Great to see a new scheme in place and hopefully encourage more people to invest in a ST.

mattcufc wrote:

carwash wrote: I think this is quite a clever scheme that Clibbens has designed.

I think it is targeted partly at exiles like myself who have no intention of going to Brunton Park yet want of do our bit and also gain some priority should we get an attractive cup tie. For £209 upfront for an early bird terracing ST we can also do our bit to help the other fans get the maximum saving. It almost follows on from the crowdfunding idea where the fans working together achieved something worthwhile and what a few people like me did for the Barnet home game by buying extra tickets for invisible friends.

I'll be buying a ST for the first time later this week.

Just said exactly the same thing. I can't go to all the games due to work commitments so wouldn't be worth me paying for a season ticket usually but if it comes down to £209/225 I would buy one as a way of supporting and putting money into the club.
Great to see a new scheme in place and hopefully encourage more people to invest in a ST.

Problem with that Matt is you'd have to commit early and if they didn't meet the target would people have the option to opt out? However well intentioned they are I think seats standing should all offer the same deal and I think 26th may is too early of a cut off date. Maybe it's just me though.

To be fair to the board I think this is a great idea. I don't personally think we will achieve the targets for the discounts though with the negativity around the club at the moment but regardless of that the young persons offer looks great value and provides an actual incentive for me as somebody in that bracket to buy one rather than just take it game by game.

Would be good if the media department could provide regular updates on the level of ticket sales to drum up some interest and try to push sales over the target levels.

Dancingbear wrote:

mattcufc wrote:

carwash wrote: I think this is quite a clever scheme that Clibbens has designed.

I think it is targeted partly at exiles like myself who have no intention of going to Brunton Park yet want of do our bit and also gain some priority should we get an attractive cup tie. For £209 upfront for an early bird terracing ST we can also do our bit to help the other fans get the maximum saving. It almost follows on from the crowdfunding idea where the fans working together achieved something worthwhile and what a few people like me did for the Barnet home game by buying extra tickets for invisible friends.

I'll be buying a ST for the first time later this week.

Just said exactly the same thing. I can't go to all the games due to work commitments so wouldn't be worth me paying for a season ticket usually but if it comes down to £209/225 I would buy one as a way of supporting and putting money into the club.
Great to see a new scheme in place and hopefully encourage more people to invest in a ST.

Problem with that Matt is you'd have to commit early and if they didn't meet the target would people have the option to opt out? However well intentioned they are I think seats standing should all offer the same deal and I think 26th may is too early of a cut off date. Maybe it's just me though.

I.d say it may well have a lot to do with the date of the play off final

Seekaye wrote:

bruntonpete wrote: Of our 1500 or so ST holders, I wonder how many are seats and how many are standing. All my family are seated.
I'd guess 1200+ seats and the rest standing.
I won't save much but I applaud the new ideas to get more in. Our ST numbers are appalling.

What makes you think there are so many seated? I'd guess half and half but may be wrong.

I'm not sure. Just a guess. With facilities being slightly better in the stands for families and the older folk I just thought more ST holders will be in the seats.
That may be the logic with reducing prices to stand. Those who sit will continue to sit and therefore that pot of money will remain the same. It is worth the gamble with the terrace tickets. Just my theory but either way, well done the club for trying something new.

Big fan of this, it's hardly too complex to understand. Dividing them all by the 23 games there's definitely more to encourage people to get one this year than previous years.

There's been almost lifelong season ticket holders that've not renewed because of the price per game, confident this should get some of them back. £9 for an adult terracing based on selling over 1,000 (should be achievable) compared to a pre match of £16, no brainer even if you miss the odd game.


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As said elsewhere you would hope the media department is all over this letting people know when discounts have being triggered or how close they are to them to encourage people to buy.
You would hope they couldn't mess it up or try to move the goalposts but this is Carlisle United we are talking about. I will be waiting to nearer the deadline before committing as doubt you can opt out once signed up for it.

Can see a few folk who sit switching to terracing to take advantage of the deal...

I think there are big opportunities to promote this, So many of the things that we moan about can be flipped round to make the terracing sound a bit special.

We have the most terracing of any club in the League. Come and watch football the way it was meant to be watched.

Forget the prawn sandwiches, enjoy proper football, standing room only. Bring your flat caps (good new line for the shop).

Get the posters out around the town. Joking aside terracing is something we should be exploiting, not wishing away for comfy seats.

Agree bumble. Terracing looks great when full and we need to fill more of this big ground of ours. We are losing so much revenue and if we get the catering and bars right and another 1000+ on the gate, it could be a win win situation.

bruntonpete wrote: Agree bumble. Terracing looks great when full and we need to fill more of this big ground of ours. We are losing so much revenue and if we get the catering and bars right and another 1000+ on the gate, it could be a win win situation.

Well theres a simple way to make that happen

And it certainly doesn't involve schemes to give something away that people are clearly willing to pay for

Those that run the club simply arent capable of realising the easiest way to put 1500 on the gate.

All this will do is is

a] persuade some current seat ST holders to transfer to standing resulting in a loss off income

b] persuade some people who currently pay on the day to buy the cheap season tickets resulting in a loss off income.

So the money taken from any new purchasers will simply be negated by the above.

Surely to negate the effects of the protocol the idea should be to increase turnover not reduce it for fu cks sake you couldn't make this up if you tried.

The Huddersfield and Bradford models are good and are proven to work but research has shown they will only reallywork best when you have 2 things a very large catchment area and a lot of empty seats and anyone who thinks we fall into the same category is sadly mistaken.

At least the club are trying something different to boost ST sales but one simple thing would make ST sales go through the roof and that would be if the Horseman fkd off.

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Dancingbear wrote:

mattcufc wrote:

carwash wrote: I think this is quite a clever scheme that Clibbens has designed.

I think it is targeted partly at exiles like myself who have no intention of going to Brunton Park yet want of do our bit and also gain some priority should we get an attractive cup tie. For £209 upfront for an early bird terracing ST we can also do our bit to help the other fans get the maximum saving. It almost follows on from the crowdfunding idea where the fans working together achieved something worthwhile and what a few people like me did for the Barnet home game by buying extra tickets for invisible friends.

I'll be buying a ST for the first time later this week.

Just said exactly the same thing. I can't go to all the games due to work commitments so wouldn't be worth me paying for a season ticket usually but if it comes down to £209/225 I would buy one as a way of supporting and putting money into the club.
Great to see a new scheme in place and hopefully encourage more people to invest in a ST.

Problem with that Matt is you'd have to commit early and if they didn't meet the target would people have the option to opt out? However well intentioned they are I think seats standing should all offer the same deal and I think 26th may is too early of a cut off date. Maybe it's just me though.

I.d say it may well have a lot to do with the date of the play off final

I thought the cut off date was so they knew how many they'd sold and it gave them time to adjust the dd payments starting june?

also, hopefully there's a running commentary on sales so anyone who might fancy one will jump in once the high sales numbers are achieved.

Mashie Niblick wrote: How do these prices compare to £199 for an adult at Huddersfield for next season (could be in the Premiershit or 23 home games in the championship)?

Seems that club have gone from strength to strength over the last 12-18 months (since the f_cked Clibbens off)?

Huddersfield's owner Dean Hoyle is basically covering the difference is what I've heard.

Spending big this season to get them into the Prem, knowing that if that happens he will be paid back.

Dean Hoyle has been bankrolling Huddersfield for some time. I don't think he necessarily expects to be paid back and he almost certainly doesn't need to be.