Season Tickets 2017/18

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I read that as 400 Terrace sold if a third towards target?

Same number of seats if total is 800?

I read it as a third of the way to triggering the first target (600) so to me that means 200 terrace season tickets sold so far.

Yeah the first saving point is at 600 tickets sold, suggesting theyve sold 200 adult/senior so far for Paddock/WRE.

Doesn't necessarily mean other 600 are seats though. Some could be juniors etc.

crunchblue wrote: I read it as a third of the way to triggering the first target (600) so to me that means 200 terrace season tickets sold so far.

Having re-read I agree.

Seems low sales for the chance of a 10 game saving mind, although offer runs to nearly the end of May so hopefully a good uptake coming in the next 3 weeks or so...

A lot of people may wait to see the result in Saturday , if we make the play-offs I suspect if we win on Saturday sales will surge.

CCU wrote:

crunchblue wrote: I read it as a third of the way to triggering the first target (600) so to me that means 200 terrace season tickets sold so far.

Having re-read I agree.

Seems low sales for the chance of a 10 game saving mind, although offer runs to nearly the end of May so hopefully a good uptake coming in the next 3 weeks or so...

very surprised it's this low. Hopefully there will be a surge over the next 3 weeks, otherwise it isn't looking good for the target.

Does anyone know if you reserve your ticket and the total isn't reached can you cancel without being charged the full amount. At the moment they are asking for payment based on the lowest cost and if not reached you will pay a higher amount depending on the amount sold.

If you choose to pay via direct debit you can just cancel the direct debit.

DeckchairBlue wrote: If you choose to pay via direct debit you can just cancel the direct debit.

£50 deposit i think.

I renewed mine last week and paid £170 deposit (the lowest possible for a senior in the paddock) so definately hoping they reach the target

How fu cking much is it , for a season ticket in the east stand ? Next to the away fans , preferably !

£362

Profpieman wrote: £362

Any concession for the mentally challenged ? Or reduction after so many sales? That direct debit sh its good in it !

Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

bruntonpete wrote: Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

Yeah Pete , hit the nail on the head , 20 - 30 regular users on here , feels more oppressive than a government run media outlet in Turkey ! Post removed take 4

bruntonpete wrote: Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

Absolutely spot on Pete. I said this when they released the offer, really good offer but in reality it's only as good as the marketing it receives. So far I've seen or heard very little, all too predictable from the amateurish organisation that is CUFC. Was away weekend before last, 15 lads, all from Carlisle, all lads with a decent interest in football. Two of us got talking about season tickets and on asking, none of the other 13 knew about the offer for next season. Enough said.

Most people wont read the back pages of the news and star - they need a one page advertisement in colour like West Ham do in the Evening Standard. The only thing this is achieving is giving the regulars a discount.

Interesting to read that Bradford have sold over 18,500 season tickets for next season, wonder if their marketing was any better than ours???

Bradford were getting very similar crowds to Carlisle when we went up to league 1. Think they then did season tickets for something like £100 and look at the fan base they have now.

Urban Designer wrote: Bradford were getting very similar crowds to Carlisle when we went up to league 1. Think they then did season tickets for something like £100 and look at the fan base they have now.

Yes they did but they also targeted kids of a certain age and let them in for nothing those kids are now 6 years older and guess what theyre now buying season tickets of their own

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

Urban Designer wrote: Bradford were getting very similar crowds to Carlisle when we went up to league 1. Think they then did season tickets for something like £100 and look at the fan base they have now.

Yes they did but they also targeted kids of a certain age and let them in for nothing those kids are now 6 years older and guess what theyre now buying season tickets of their own

Ive said for years we should be targetting all kids. Younger ones will need to take their parents and older ones will go with their mates and hopefully end up buying adult tickets a few years later.

Half the residents of Bradford have started a family by the time they are 15 so it's no great surprise that kids tickets make up over half of those numbers.

Ive also said we should let all kids in free up to till the age of 18. While other clubs have grown and moved forward we have gone backwards. Our fanbase is literally dying.

10 quid for season tickets for under 11s is a great deal. You can't really argue with £99 a season for juniors either

bruntonpete wrote: Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

Totally agree Pete. Even the fans they have targeted has been poor with some getting emails others not, most getting the invite letter with the embarrassing poor photocopied price list, where has the pride in the club went? Who is responsible for allowing this to go out? Someone must of put a plan together of how this was to work surely this should include where, when, who and how they are going to target both old and new customers.

Whatever happened to the professional colour leaflets for season tickets? We still have them for the corporate supporters, are 100 of them a game more important than the 5000 through the turnstiles?

I would also like to as a one off season them either extend or scrap the early bird period to allow as many people as possible to be able to take up the new offer and ensure the targets are met. Although I have a feeling this may not be what the club actually wants to happen.

The frustrating thing about this kind of thing is that there would be fans around that would be more than happy to design something professional looking for the club for free, in their spare time. We're still a small enough club so that if things were done correctly, that community feel would be massive,

As it is that kind of stuff just would just get turned away.

My dad got in touch with the ticket office last week to sort out how to get a carers ticket alongside his season ticket due to them changing their rules regarding the DLA bracket.

Whilst emailing he suggested a couple of simple things they could do to make things easier on both sides.

Response he got was "there's only 2 of us here trying to do everything so you can't expect us to have the time to be able to do everything" or along those lines.

So apparently now it's the fans fault the club doesn't staff their offices properly.

I know of at least two people who have offered to do design work for the club and just not heard back from them. One of them was volunteer work the other was freelance but very reasonable rates and had work from rugby teams in West Cumbria that he had done which on initial contact the club had said looked good and would be back in touch but as far as I know he never heard from them again.

Think problem with volunteer work is it's great if they give that commitment but as a business you have no comeback on them if they don't do the work for you or miss deadlines etc so it is a bit of a risky strategy and if they get paid work come in it will always take priority.

Another avenue would be the University who have Graphic Design courses running and sure they have students who would be interested in working on projects with the club.

Just can't understand why we would put such a good exciting new offer in place and then not promote it properly. I can understand it not going on the radio, buses, tv etc as the cost of these would be ridiculous but a leaflet drop in the paper or even door to door is a cost effective way to get the message out there.

Seekaye wrote: 10 quid for season tickets for under 11s is a great deal. You can't really argue with £99 a season for juniors either

Aye theyre good if your getting season tickets.

franksidebottom wrote:

bruntonpete wrote: Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

Absolutely spot on Pete. I said this when they released the offer, really good offer but in reality it's only as good as the marketing it receives. So far I've seen or heard very little, all too predictable from the amateurish organisation that is CUFC. Was away weekend before last, 15 lads, all from Carlisle, all lads with a decent interest in football. Two of us got talking about season tickets and on asking, none of the other 13 knew about the offer for next season. Enough said.

having a crack with the postie who collects our mail from work, he gets to 90%+ of home games and we discuss the highs and lows all the time. he doesn't do facebook or this MB and when I asked him about whether he was taking advantage of the discounted ST he never had a clue what I was on about.

DeckchairBlue wrote: My dad got in touch with the ticket office last week to sort out how to get a carers ticket alongside his season ticket due to them changing their rules regarding the DLA bracket.

Whilst emailing he suggested a couple of simple things they could do to make things easier on both sides.

Response he got was "there's only 2 of us here trying to do everything so you can't expect us to have the time to be able to do everything" or along those lines.

So apparently now it's the fans fault the club doesn't staff their offices properly.

I hope they spent an hour or asking for post codes, favourite colours and what order they'd watch the Star Wars films in?

DeckchairBlue wrote: My dad got in touch with the ticket office last week to sort out how to get a carers ticket alongside his season ticket due to them changing their rules regarding the DLA bracket.

Whilst emailing he suggested a couple of simple things they could do to make things easier on both sides.

Response he got was "there's only 2 of us here trying to do everything so you can't expect us to have the time to be able to do everything" or along those lines.

So apparently now it's the fans fault the club doesn't staff their offices properly.

Sorry if it sounds harsh but when someone says "there's only 2 of us here trying to do everything so you can't expect us to have the time to be able to do everything" it boils my piss.

I would have asked for the manager but in this case they would have just said 'I will deal with it' and do nothing, especially in Carlisle United case - they probably found it funny.

I would have gave whoever said it a warning, it isn't too hard for them to realise what is acceptable or not - bit like a kid chucking a chocolate wrapper onto the floor in the street.

Anyhow selling season tickets at Carlisle United is hardly the most stressful job in the world surely, especially this season.

Rotten from the bottom to the top, this operation needs felled and the roots taken up and start again.

I told my dad he should go above and complain about how his query was handled/responded to.

Fortunately the person who responded to his email seemed to have enough free time not to put their name at the bottom of their reply.

mojo wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

bruntonpete wrote: Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

Absolutely spot on Pete. I said this when they released the offer, really good offer but in reality it's only as good as the marketing it receives. So far I've seen or heard very little, all too predictable from the amateurish organisation that is CUFC. Was away weekend before last, 15 lads, all from Carlisle, all lads with a decent interest in football. Two of us got talking about season tickets and on asking, none of the other 13 knew about the offer for next season. Enough said.

having a crack with the postie who collects our mail from work, he gets to 90%+ of home games and we discuss the highs and lows all the time. he doesn't do facebook or this MB and when I asked him about whether he was taking advantage of the discounted ST he never had a clue what I was on about.

Was there nothing in last weeks programme about it ?

Down here every house in Hyndburn got a full colour leaflet from Stanley thru their letter box explaining all the prices, options and renewal dates etc as well as pointing out how your kids could go cheaply on a match by match basis and for virtually nothing on a season ticket.

Hence when the early buy period ends at 7pm this evening sales will be up 40% on last year to a level Stanley have never experienced before and thats despite some unpopular decisions like the scrapping of their flexx ticket scheme..

DeckchairBlue wrote: My dad got in touch with the ticket office last week to sort out how to get a carers ticket alongside his season ticket due to them changing their rules regarding the DLA bracket.

Whilst emailing he suggested a couple of simple things they could do to make things easier on both sides.

Response he got was "there's only 2 of us here trying to do everything so you can't expect us to have the time to be able to do everything" or along those lines.

So apparently now it's the fans fault the club doesn't staff their offices properly.

And you can put your wages on the fact that will of been yet another of these females that they employ on the basis that theyre shit scared of Jenkins and just do as theyre told without questioning things.

You have to ask yourself do you think things like this would go on for any length of time at a club that was owned by its fans ?

You have to question if they actually want it to succeed with the lack of promotion around the offer or is it a token gesture to try something new that fans have asked for, don't promote it, let it fail then say we've lost money on season ticket sales due to the new pricing structure.
Even as a follower on social media there seems to be little posts hitting my news feeds about it.

franksidebottom wrote: Interesting to read that Bradford have sold over 18,500 season tickets for next season, wonder if their marketing was any better than ours???

They've got Charlie Wyke and Greg Abbott though.

bruntonpete wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

mojo wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote: Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

Absolutely spot on Pete. I said this when they released the offer, really good offer but in reality it's only as good as the marketing it receives. So far I've seen or heard very little, all too predictable from the amateurish organisation that is CUFC. Was away weekend before last, 15 lads, all from Carlisle, all lads with a decent interest in football. Two of us got talking about season tickets and on asking, none of the other 13 knew about the offer for next season. Enough said.

having a crack with the postie who collects our mail from work, he gets to 90%+ of home games and we discuss the highs and lows all the time. he doesn't do facebook or this MB and when I asked him about whether he was taking advantage of the discounted ST he never had a clue what I was on about.

Was there nothing in last weeks programme about it ?

Down here every house in Hyndburn got a full colour leaflet from Stanley thru their letter box explaining all the prices, options and renewal dates etc as well as pointing out how your kids could go cheaply on a match by match basis and for virtually nothing on a season ticket.

Hence when the early buy period ends at 7pm this evening sales will be up 40% on last year to a level Stanley have never experienced before and thats despite some unpopular decisions like the scrapping of their flexx ticket scheme..

Just seen the Accrington Season tickets having opened the link you posted on that other thread. They are certainly pushing some good offers and looks much simpler than our various deadlines and targets they even have a proper application form available to print and complete which is one less job for the girls in the ticket office to do!

bruntonpete wrote:

franksidebottom wrote:

mojo wrote:

NORTHERNSOUL wrote:

mattcufc wrote: Other than the regulars who are never off the official site and other cufc links, I doubt this promotion has reached any new potential fans. It should be all over the place - leaflet drops, cfm, the paper, posters around town and on the buses.
Until they get out there and try and sell the club ( not just investors) it will always be the same folk!

Absolutely spot on Pete. I said this when they released the offer, really good offer but in reality it's only as good as the marketing it receives. So far I've seen or heard very little, all too predictable from the amateurish organisation that is CUFC. Was away weekend before last, 15 lads, all from Carlisle, all lads with a decent interest in football. Two of us got talking about season tickets and on asking, none of the other 13 knew about the offer for next season. Enough said.

having a crack with the postie who collects our mail from work, he gets to 90%+ of home games and we discuss the highs and lows all the time. he doesn't do facebook or this MB and when I asked him about whether he was taking advantage of the discounted ST he never had a clue what I was on about.

Was there nothing in last weeks programme about it ?

Down here every house in Hyndburn got a full colour leaflet from Stanley thru their letter box explaining all the prices, options and renewal dates etc as well as pointing out how your kids could go cheaply on a match by match basis and for virtually nothing on a season ticket.

Hence when the early buy period ends at 7pm this evening sales will be up 40% on last year to a level Stanley have never experienced before and thats despite some unpopular decisions like the scrapping of their flexx ticket scheme..

Just seen the Accrington Season tickets having opened the link you posted on that other thread. They are certainly pushing some good offers and looks much simpler than our various deadlines and targets they even have a proper application form available to print and complete which is one less job for the girls in the ticket office to do!

Yes much simpler and cheaper for for kids as well

Mind you theve been getting quite a bit of flack as well but more about things on the periphery like deadlines and providing id than the tickets themselves or the cost.

Ive bought two at £179 each mainly for the old lads i help out with to use but if i want to use one instead i can just pay a couple of quid a game to enable me to do that and just imagine what a nightmare that would be at CUFC and thats against a club who dont even have a full time staffed ticket office but rely on the supporters club to sell most of them from their shop in the market.

Any updates on the total amount of terrace season tickets sold to date? Anywhere near the magic numbers?

From Mon 15th, which was last update I think?

"We are just under half way towards our first terracing target of 600"

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Unless they're just bothering to let us know how sales are progressing, this hasn't really worked, has it?

Can't guarantee how many games I'll be able to get to next season (was probably 14 or 15 home games this season), so unless it looks like we're getting close to reaching the target I won't be buying one before the week is out.

Exactly 6 weeks ago they announced this. If we're only halfway towards the first target for Terracing (As of last Mon, last update we have) in that time - Which would be 300 - then unless there's a mad dash this week, the scheme hasn't attracted anywhere near enough folk...

I think quite a lot of folk would have been waiting until the end of the season to sign up. Whether that is to see what league we were in or just wanting to get round to it once the season is over, I don't know.

But these things snowball. You need to ramp up the updates and news on it and make sure that people are talking about it. They are not talking about it.

Needed to be far more updates in my opinion. At least a couple of times a week, and with actual figures, not just "less than one third of the way to the first discount" etc.

cufcdeano wrote: Needed to be far more updates in my opinion. At least a couple of times a week, and with actual figures, not just "less than one third of the way to the first discount" etc.

I guess the figures are so bad theyre embarrassed to update them

Another over complicated failure. This is likely to delay people getting season tickets as they will be waiting to see if the target has been met before committing.

Urban Designer wrote: Another over complicated failure. This is likely to delay people getting season tickets as they will be waiting to see if the target has been met before committing.

Certainly not over complicated. There's nothing complicated about it. It's just not been advertised/pushed as much as it should have been.

I'm beginning to wonder if the Season Ticket promotion was a political move by Clibbens. It was a decent offer and should have had a better take-up. Now he can say to Curle that they've tried their best to boost attendances but despite the football being better, attendances aren't improving and therefore there's not the money there for the squad.

carwash wrote: I'm beginning to wonder if the Season Ticket promotion was a political move by Clibbens. It was a decent offer and should have had a better take-up. Now he can say to Curle that they've tried their best to boost attendances but despite the football being better, attendances aren't improving and therefore there's not the money there for the squad.

But why would they ever do that? The BOD don't plough a load of money into the club, which is often perceived as a lack of ambition, because they're not speculating to accumulate.

What possible motive would they have to not raise the revenue and therefore have more to spend?