Why don’t we just announce he’s working for us? Worst kept ‘secret’ yet that he’s now employed by the Club in some capacity.
Can’t take that long to come up with a title surely?!
Can’t take that long to come up with a title surely?!
If PD is our leader, and focal point for the new regime, I’m out of here.Dubai based, doesn’t like football, has a ‘chequered’ view on business, lends rather than invests, and publicity shy.
He’s hardly someone to get behind-in fact, he’s the opposite because the view will be no point in putting money up because he’s got enough
He’s hardly someone to get behind-in fact, he’s the opposite because the view will be no point in putting money up because he’s got enough
"As for the stadium, the council needs to get off its arse and build a new sports/education complex.The club doesn’t need to build it"
What a surprise. Laffy's master plan involves the council building us a new ground for free, that's true head in the clouds Fantasy Island crack.
We move out of Brunton Park and into council accomodation, leaving the Brunton Park site empty and free for Laffy to exploit, all at zero cost to himself.
Take over the club with someone else's money, get someone else to build a new ground we don't own, kick back and rake all the profits in from your new business park. Genius.
Who cares if new investment comes from Dubai, Outer Mongolia, Antarctica or wherever?
What a surprise. Laffy's master plan involves the council building us a new ground for free, that's true head in the clouds Fantasy Island crack.
We move out of Brunton Park and into council accomodation, leaving the Brunton Park site empty and free for Laffy to exploit, all at zero cost to himself.
Take over the club with someone else's money, get someone else to build a new ground we don't own, kick back and rake all the profits in from your new business park. Genius.
Who cares if new investment comes from Dubai, Outer Mongolia, Antarctica or wherever?
We are in a race to the bottom-have been for 5 years.It’s now a competition between the debt and investment-and we know which one has priority.
The PD debt is going up Marko.Read the accounts.The one thing we don’t know is what the terms of the debt are.I suspect it’s already in technical default due to expiry of the original term-hence the letter of comfort for next 12 months
As for the stadium, the council needs to get off its arse and build a new sports/education complex.The club doesn’t need to build it
You can smell decay around the Club-it’s being run in a shoestring because the current regime screwed it up-the trust being a big part of it with their blocking right.Would they rather have 10pc of something or 25.4pc of [censored] all is the question?
You can't expect the tax payer to bail out the club and build them a stadium. That's even before you consider whether they have the gumption - rumour has it their flood defence policy for the Sands is to just et the water enter the buildimg.
We are in a race to the bottom-have been for 5 years.It’s now a competition between the debt and investment-and we know which one has priority.
The PD debt is going up Marko.Read the accounts.The one thing we don’t know is what the terms of the debt are.I suspect it’s already in technical default due to expiry of the original term-hence the letter of comfort for next 12 months
As for the stadium, the council needs to get off its arse and build a new sports/education complex.The club doesn’t need to build it
You can smell decay around the Club-it’s being run in a shoestring because the current regime screwed it up-the trust being a big part of it with their blocking right.Would they rather have 10pc of something or 25.4pc of [censored] all is the question?
You can't expect the tax payer to bail out the club and build them a stadium. That's even before you consider whether they have the gumption - rumour has it their flood defence policy for the Sands is to just et the water enter the buildimg.
It's on stilts by the look of it.
I know the original designers as he questioned it, and it was not previously, could be now mind.
It does not look very high above the path to be on stilts.
Pig
Look at Workington-building a community project with err..taxpayer cash.It needs to involve community use, including education-on the BP site for me.
As for your pie in the sky building of a business park, the last one I was involved in financing was Maxim on the M8.£330m project.I won’t be going into that game again as there is no demand,even less in Carlisle.
What holds Carlisle back is the usual ‘Cant do’ mentality-it’s like it’s inbred in the population.You then have Cumbria split into two distinct council areas which is bloody madness.
Look at Workington-building a community project with err..taxpayer cash.It needs to involve community use, including education-on the BP site for me.
As for your pie in the sky building of a business park, the last one I was involved in financing was Maxim on the M8.£330m project.I won’t be going into that game again as there is no demand,even less in Carlisle.
What holds Carlisle back is the usual ‘Cant do’ mentality-it’s like it’s inbred in the population.You then have Cumbria split into two distinct council areas which is bloody madness.
Distribution hub on Warwick Road-are you insane?
Interesting story about Maxim-we forward sold it in 2008 for £330m without a brick in the ground on basis we would build it.Crash came and when it was finished in 2010, surprise surprise the bank called the loan in.I was interviewed by the bank and it’s advisors as to how we as developers had managed to sell it pre crash for £330m at which point I noted that it was the bank that funded the purchase!
The interview then descended into a shouting match-whilst looking at their feet, something I do in difficult meetings as shuffling feet tells you a lot, I noted that the main bank guy was wearing cheap plastic shoes.I advised him that I was not prepared to have an argument with someone wearing plastic shoes.
That was the end of my relationship with HBOS-their loss.I will never borrow a bean from those idiots again
Interesting story about Maxim-we forward sold it in 2008 for £330m without a brick in the ground on basis we would build it.Crash came and when it was finished in 2010, surprise surprise the bank called the loan in.I was interviewed by the bank and it’s advisors as to how we as developers had managed to sell it pre crash for £330m at which point I noted that it was the bank that funded the purchase!
The interview then descended into a shouting match-whilst looking at their feet, something I do in difficult meetings as shuffling feet tells you a lot, I noted that the main bank guy was wearing cheap plastic shoes.I advised him that I was not prepared to have an argument with someone wearing plastic shoes.
That was the end of my relationship with HBOS-their loss.I will never borrow a bean from those idiots again
What does shuffling of feet tell you?
What's the optimal foot position during a business meeting?
Anyway, I'm with you on the shit shoe thing. Shoes tell you an amazing amount about the wearer.
What's the optimal foot position during a business meeting?
Anyway, I'm with you on the shit shoe thing. Shoes tell you an amazing amount about the wearer.
Yes Marko-me and a few guys bought the site for £24m with Tritax.We knocked the production building down because we couldn’t let it
.Resulted in a tax tribunal over capital allowances which we won earlier this year-13 years fighting it.Check out Mark Shaw v HMRC
The opening night was indeed with Salmond.I sat next to Chris Hoy who did a speech for a few.
The court case in loved Regus who were stung by the bank-appalling
Worst of all, SE dropped 10s of millions on funding Chungwha-basically to build picture tubes just as flat screens were coming in
Keppies did a great job-huge commission for them at the time
10 years later, Maxim is proving to be a success and substantially filled-the sheds did well from outset
I wouldn’t go anywhere near HBOS again-behaved like thugs
.Resulted in a tax tribunal over capital allowances which we won earlier this year-13 years fighting it.Check out Mark Shaw v HMRC
The opening night was indeed with Salmond.I sat next to Chris Hoy who did a speech for a few.
The court case in loved Regus who were stung by the bank-appalling
Worst of all, SE dropped 10s of millions on funding Chungwha-basically to build picture tubes just as flat screens were coming in
Keppies did a great job-huge commission for them at the time
10 years later, Maxim is proving to be a success and substantially filled-the sheds did well from outset
I wouldn’t go anywhere near HBOS again-behaved like thugs
Was an enterprise zone so 100pc on all new build-including the Dakota hotel.
I was asked to put my name on the tax case but thought we would lose so Mark offered-we lost the first one and won on appeal.£750k of legal costs and 13 years of grief but there was an awful lot of tax at stake.Big relief for me and the rest of the land syndicate I can tell you.Our counsel was Julian Gosht who ran and lost the Rangers Tax case.Probably the smartest person I’ve ever met and he was brilliant in a Zoom tribunal
Cerberus bought the Hbos debt and it’s now been sold on and the Park is really filling up.Timing is everything!
I was asked to put my name on the tax case but thought we would lose so Mark offered-we lost the first one and won on appeal.£750k of legal costs and 13 years of grief but there was an awful lot of tax at stake.Big relief for me and the rest of the land syndicate I can tell you.Our counsel was Julian Gosht who ran and lost the Rangers Tax case.Probably the smartest person I’ve ever met and he was brilliant in a Zoom tribunal
Cerberus bought the Hbos debt and it’s now been sold on and the Park is really filling up.Timing is everything!
I thought this thread was about that clown Holdsworth?
Morning Marko
The whole deal was structured around a c £150m rent deposit which gave 11 years cover.The bank grabbed it in 2010 so it was doomed to short term failure.
The fact is it’s now flourishing.
The parallel with Carlisle is the stadium can be built was some financial engineering but it needs Council support.I don’t disagree on the club finances-I have been a critic of the Curle regime for a long while.
My view is based around sorting the stadium issue out before speculating elsewhere.Otherwise you are potentially building on sand
The whole deal was structured around a c £150m rent deposit which gave 11 years cover.The bank grabbed it in 2010 so it was doomed to short term failure.
The fact is it’s now flourishing.
The parallel with Carlisle is the stadium can be built was some financial engineering but it needs Council support.I don’t disagree on the club finances-I have been a critic of the Curle regime for a long while.
My view is based around sorting the stadium issue out before speculating elsewhere.Otherwise you are potentially building on sand
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